Image talk:Dialects.GIF
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Made this image myself. Therefor copyright would be Jorgenpfhartogs
- It's a nice effort, but it has the following defects:
- It gives the Flemish and Brabantic dialects in Belgium the same colour, suggesting they are more closely related to each other than to the adjoining dialects in The Netherlands.
- It shows the dialects of Limburg north of the mich-line as Limburgish. They are Brabantic or South Gueldrian.
- The east of Zeeuws-Vlaanderen is given as Zealandic. It is East Flemish.
- The Achterhoek is in fact soundly Saxon.
- There is no dialect continuum between Frisian and Saxon, so more precise lines would be in order.
- West Flemish should have a different colour.
- You correctly let Limburgish extend into Germany. The same should be done for Brabantic and Saxon.
--MWAK 07:43, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Made the changes
It gives the Flemish and Brabantic dialects in Belgium the same colour, suggesting they are more closely related to each other than to the adjoining dialects in The Netherlands. Flemish and Brabantic are more closely related than Brabantic is with other adjoining dialects. There is, however a distinct difference between Flemish and Brabantic. The difference between Brabantic in Germany, Netherlands and Belgium can be ignored.
It shows the dialects of Limburg north of the mich-line as Limburgish. They are Brabantic or South Gueldrian. True, but this differs from town to town. A lot of Brabantic dialects west of the River Maas and north of Weert (the mich-line) are under influence by Limburgish so at shows as an area where the dialects are neither pure Limburgisch nor Brabantic. The east of Zeeuws-Vlaanderen is given as Zealandic. It is East Flemish. Yes, the east of Zeeuws-Vlaanderen is East Flemish.The west of Zeeuws-Vlaanderen is more realted to West Flemish but is not West Flemish. The Achterhoek is in fact soundly Saxon. True so added Saxon into the Niederfraenkish district. There is no dialect continuum between Frisian and Saxon, so more precise lines would be in order. Niederfraenkisch lies between Saxon and Frisian. In Souteast Frisian a lot of immigrants live who don't speak Frisian. So the border is not that clear. West Flemish should have a different colour. Changed that, as well as French Flemish. You correctly let Limburgish extend into Germany. The same should be done for Brabantic and Saxon. Did that too. Jorgenpfhartogs 14:15, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
- It's much better now! One thing has changed for the worst though: there now is an artificial division within the Zuid-Gelders dialects. The simplest solution would be giving it all the same colour as Brabantic as there are no major isogloss bundles anyway.--MWAK 11:07, 1 October 2005 (UTC)