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[edit] Referenda vs. 'referendums'

The plural of the word 'referendum' is 'referenda'. Honest.
James F. (talk) 11:11, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

OK, having consulted the OED, I've changed my mind. Sorry I've made such a hash of things.
James F. (talk) 11:17, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] British Elections

From your deletion of your comments, do I assume that you figured out that I just doubled your numbers and changed to "adult male population"? I think that for the nineteenth century, it makes more sense to talk in terms of the adult male population, since the question of women's suffrage was not really at issue until well after 1885. john 20:15, 10 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Language project

Hi there, I found you when I read your comment at the vote regarding Pro-American sentiment. Unfortunately no one has yet taken care of it. But there are more important things. I started a project about learning, mainly vocabulary. Some guys discussed it with me on my user page. Maybe you are interested, if so, please let me know there as well. Get-back-world-respect 19:29, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Edit attribution

Hi. Your request for edit reattribution was rejected. Please see Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit/Rejected requests. Regards — Kate Turner | Talk 06:13, 2004 Sep 5 (UTC)

[edit] Home Nation

Do you live in the UK? I live in Scotland, and have NEVER heard the phrase "Home Nation" used except in relation to cricket. While it may (or may not) be technically correct, it is confusing. AlistairMcMillan 22:23, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Yes I live in England - maybe 'Home nation' is just an English thing then. Still, country is not accurate as that implies that it is an a sovereign nation with its own territory (the UK). Nation is a name for a group of people with the same culture/language/ethnicity etc - thats what England, Scotland, Wales and NI are. I'm not trying to demean Wales and Scotland or anything, its just they are not countries despite many people referring to them as that. Deus Ex 17:11, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I refer you to the fourth paragraph of Country.
Anyway I have no serious objections to your last edit to Scotland. Although rest assured that I'm keeping the page bookmarked so that the exact millisecond we win our independence back... :) AlistairMcMillan 21:45, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Thats fine by me ;) Deus Ex 21:47, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Meta-human

Hi, Deus Ex, I think it was you posted Meta-human on Cleanup (if you don't mind my saying so, it would be easier to be sure if you signed the entries), so I'm writing to explain why I'm about to remove it from the list. When you posted it, it looks like it had already been listed on VfD, but the VfD nominator for some reason didn't add the VfD tag to the article itself until a good deal later — two hours later — so you had no way of knowing about it. Crossed wires, that's all. (Also, I think you may yourself have forgotten to add the Cleanup template to the article.) Pretty elaborate hoax, isn't it? It smells to heaven of copyvio, pity Google can't seem to pick up the scent. Best wishes, Bishonen 23:52, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the message, I tried googling it too but I couldn't get anything. I'll try and sign my entries next time. Deus Ex 10:55, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Cathedral of Magdeburg

Hey, thanks for nominating the article! Currently I am on a trip, but I will be back on thursday and then can add a lot of references, both paper and online. I added a comment about that to the freatured article page -- Chris 73 Talk 23:39, Oct 3, 2004 (UTC)

  • I added a number of references (most in german) and external links. I also changed the This makes the sculpture interesting to look at from all sides. into a more neutral wording. -- Chris 73 Talk 09:41, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

[edit] Bernard Williams

Deus Ex, thank you for reverting the vandalism at BW. I was so pleased to have this featured on the main page, and could have died when I saw someone had inserted that he'd studied the question: "How to live with pigs" !! Luckily, you spotted it very quickly. Thank you! Best, SlimVirgin 19:29, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Maps

I'm afraid I have retired from map-making for the moment. Sorry, Morwen - Talk 15:35, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Images listed for deletion

I have listed these images for deletion at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion (June 9) since no articles use them. If you feel this is wrong, drop a note at that page or, at the very least, find an article where they can be used. Regards, Thuresson 00:53, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Royal Prerogative

I don't disapprove of your changes to Royal Prerogative but want to clarify your comment - which is inaccurate. The fact is that the Monarch does have a real choice - one that may go with the flow while popular support is lacking, but one can imagine a Monarch with popular support (not necessarily democratic support) that in the future could act against the elected government and legally move the country to despotism. In general, the British public are not protected by constitutional convention which can change with the times in ways that are against the public interest. Hence the 2003 parlimentary inquiry. Your implication that the Monarch is helpless is incorrect. - Steven Zenith 07:27, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for your response on my talk page. I do not have time to respond right now - but, I am English. I was raised in London. Briefly, you are under a false apprehension that is the product of Palace PR. And in my opinion it is dangerous complacency. Aside from that, the facts speak for themselves. It is the facts and not your opinion of the facts that Wikipedia requires. - Steven Zenith 22:22, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your thanks on the British Monarchy...

...but I'm still not 100 percent satisfied with the sentence as I rewrote it. All the facts are there, but it's godawfully mangled and hard to follow. Suggestions on how to revise it are welcome! --Jfruh 19:35, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] United Kingdom

elements cross-posted

Then you should have said so in the edit summary. That's what they are for. I would have thought that an editor like you who has been around for so long would know that.
James F. (talk) 2 July 2005 14:25 (UTC)
Sorry, didn't mean to make it sound like an accusation. :-)
James F. (talk) 2 July 2005 14:36 (UTC)

[edit] corecting mispellings

Hi Deus Ex, I think the self-referential mistake is a useful illustration of its point; it was certainly put there intentionally. Thanks for your keen eyes, though! +sj + 3 July 2005 02:24 (UTC)

[edit] Old/New Labour

I was no fan of the material that was collecting under these two headings, and also have _some_ sympathy with your sentiment that the proliferation was just that, too prolific. But it's a bit discourteous, I suggest, to merge (and apparently mainly loose) the material without consulting the other contributors. 'New Labour' especially, could still be expected to be a valid entry point to an article or relevant part thereof. Linuxlad 3 July 2005 15:28 (UTC)

Well I think it might be nice to vector the New Labour redirect straight into the right place in the article. I agree on most of the rest - pity about the Classic Labour tag - I've usually used it as a self-description, since I heard it (on my 50th birthday IIRC) :-)

[edit] Prevenient grace

Thanks for your comments! I will try in the days ahead to make those adjustments! KHM03 10:49, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] See?

If you had just said that in your edit summary the first time around, we wouldn't have any problem. That's what I meant about explaining your changes. --Golbez 00:54, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

I've already made an attempt, what do you think? --Golbez 01:09, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
As for your non-lead edits, reverting those was an error. I'll fix it when I finish dinner. I thought about your edit, and I thought it somewhat POV to say he fixed Germany's unemployment - which he did by instituting something close to a slave labor policy. I'll look at it again, as I said, after I eat. --Golbez 01:38, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] SCOTUS article

Hi Deus Ex,

I removed the "judicial philosophy" section from the SCOTUS article; I'm informing you because (if I am not mistaken) you were the one who added it. I fear that judicial philosophy is far, far more general than this section implies. It relates not only to the SCOTUS, but also to every other court. Hence, dedicating a section to it in this article is not, in my opinion, necessary. Furthermore, the definitions are bound to be controversial, and will only lead to endless revert wars. Therefore, I felt that it was best to avoid labeling Supreme Court decisions as "activist" or "loose constructionist" or anything else. I hope that you do not take exception to the removal of the section. Thanks. -- Emsworth 15:15, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New Labour - worth a separate article?

I notice from the history of the New Labour article that you merged it with Labour Party (UK). Looking at the previous article, I can see why, but I think that New Labour - its creation being one of the most important events in British politcs in the 1990s - merits its own article, given the many, many volumes of books that have been written about New Labour and the depth of the subject. It shouldn't be too hard to work on a good article that, I think, could gain featured status if we try hard enough. I'll give you more detail as to what I'd like to see in a New Labour article, but what are your first thoughts on this? Many thanks. --High(Hopes) 17:54, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Many thanks for your reply. I had seen your note that you'd be away, so no worries about the delay. I suggest that I start drafting an article on my subpage at User:HighHopes/New Labour, which will first consist of the section as it stands in the Labour Party article before I radically alter it. I tend not to spend too much time on Wikipedia, but in the time I do I'll do my best to create a good article on the subject. I'm also relatively new here, so it'd be nice to make a worthwhile contribution. I'll start by listing the subjects I feel are worth exploring.
As for collaboration on the subject - feel free to mess around with the draft article on my subpage. I partly assume that your involvement with the Labour Party article was chiefly due to your interest in British politics rather than a desire to tidy up Wikipedia, so hopefully you'll have plenty of ideas on how to make the article good. Similarly, if you know of other Wikipedians who would like to edit it, point them at my subpage (assuming that's the done thing for working on draft articles; naturally it can be edited from the main encyclopedia once it's of a sufficient quality).
Finally, following on from an allusion I made earlier, is there a good page on how to become a good Wikipedian? I sometimes get the impression there's something of a chasm between those who edit articles or contribute a little and those who are well versed in Wikipedia's many rules and guidelines. The latter group seem to always make recognised and effective contributions, are far better with the technical side of WP (such as drawing tables, creating templates) and are generally well known. I'd be interested in any guidelines on how to be more like the latter and less like the former, if that makes sense! I've seen the open tasks list, but surely it takes more to get your name recognised than just to work regularly on them? How do established WPians judge a newcomer or up-and-coming WPian? Many thanks for your help! --High(Hopes) 19:41, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New Labour/Old Labour/Classic Labour

Thanks for the steer

No No! - Old Labour and Classic Labour are NOT synonyms :-). Old Labour is usually pejorative and means a bit George Brown/Jim Callaghan era of smokefilled rooms (or, sorry your local labour party is full...) . Classic Labour means something in the (post 79) socialist mainstream - a bit more Robin Cook on a good day. As for the term, well I first heard it on my 50th birthday, just up the way in Nottingham (Local Gov Conference I recollect) and I thought it was too good to lose - sorry if you don't :-( Linuxlad

[edit] Fußball-Bundesliga

Hi. We need articles written on Fußball-Bundesliga seasons from 1969/70 through 1975/76, in order to take them off the Wikipedia:Most wanted articles page! Since you've worked on the main article's page, I thought you might like to take a crack at it. Cheers! -- BD2412 talk 20:33, August 6, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] writing about history on Wikipedia

Hello,

I’m an historian working at the Center for History and New Media at George Mason University (http://chnm.gmu.edu/) and we are very interested in digital, peer-produced works of history, including history articles in Wikipedia. We’d like to talk to people about their experiences working on articles in Wikipedia, in connection with a larger project on the history of the free and open source software movement. Would you be willing to talk with us about your involvement, either by phone, a/v chat, IM, or email? This could be as lengthy or brief a conversation as you wish.

Thanks for your consideration.

Olivia

oryan at gmu dot edu

[edit] New Labour (revisited!)

Hi, I left you a message recently regarding the idea of heavily reworking the New Labour article. It's been sat as a draft on my subpage, blissfully untouched, as I've been a bit lame and barely had time to get stuck in. I should be able to get going on it in a couple of weeks time, and I'll register back with you once I've got a skeleton outline of how the article might look.

I hope this isn't stating the obvious, but we should be cautious not to discuss what's happened within the Labour Party since the inception of New Labour, but to look at New Labour as a concept (lots of Anthony Giddens and so forth) in itself and perhaps discuss policies, decisions etc. that bear the hallmarks of Blair & Co's radical overhaul of the party. I intend to dig up a few old essays about it and see what material I've got. --High(Hopes)+ 01:07, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sources for European Parliament election, 1989 (UK)

Hello, good work on European Parliament election, 1989 (UK), and thanks for the contribution. However, you did not provide any references or sources in the article. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and as you might be aware there is currently a push to encourage editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. From what websites, books, or other places did you learn the information that you added to European Parliament election, 1989 (UK)? Would it be possible for you to mention them in the article? You can simply add links, or see WP:CITET if you wish to review some of the different citation methods. Thanks! Lupin|talk|popups 00:09, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging Image:Barcelona within Barcelonès.png

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[edit] Leicester City

Some good works being done, I try to chip in when I can. On the colours, I'm sure when we started out we played in brown and white in a design like the current Blackburn kit, I had a book with it in, but can't find that or any net pages with this info. Also the managers needs changing. We could produce a table like Arsenal but it's pointless with out detail like nationality and record. And you took away my fact about the ten clubs in the top two teirs of English football, I thought that was a good fact. The history will be hard because when all said and done the first 100 years or so were pretty uneventful appart from a few FA Cup finals a League cup win and a last minute relegation escape, while the last 15 or so have been a bit crazy. Well keep up the good work, and I'll try and help where I can, but the boss keeps sticking his head round the door. Jimmmmmmmmm 09:06, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

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