Talk:Demographics and politics of Northern Ireland
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Oh please! The claim that the term loyalist "has become less popular in recent years" is POV popycock. It was used 6 times on the RTÉ News tonight, 8 times in two reports on BBC Northern Ireland News tonight and featured two weeks ago in a report on CBS News. Some decline in popularity for the term! Be real! The claim is just a POV claim of patent dubiousness.
[edit] Examples from 15 August 2005 news coverage
FearÉIREANN
\(caint) 23:50, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
Wise up. Less popular is not the same as less common.
Lapsed Pacifist 06:43, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] 100%?
Why don't the religions add up to 100%? I dont know how Northern Ireland had 100.2% of its people accounted for in 2001.
- Anyone familiar with statistics knows that percentage breakdowns don't always add up to 100% because of rounding. Duh.
Camillus
talk|contribs 01:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] "Proving a negative"
I'm not asking you to prove a negative; I'm asking you to provide a reputable source that backs up your claim that the DUP does not have one single Catholic member. Demiurge 17:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
As another user said, it's kind of a common-sense thing, Demiurge. You may as well ask me for a source that proves there are no Jews in the British National Party. I ask you for the name of one (just one) Catholic member of the DUP. They must have thousands of members; one Catholic shouldn't be too hard to find.
Lapsed Pacifist 13:56, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Please read WP:CITE and WP:V. You're the one making the claim; it's up to you to provide evidence for it. (Anyway, it's not so inconceivable that the BNP would have a Jewish member -- there's at least one Jewish holocaust denier. See what happens when you make assumptions based on "common sense" and "everyone knows"?) Demiurge 14:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
You are claiming the DUP has Catholic members; can you provide evidence for it? I've never heard of a Roman Catholic DUP member. I don't believe you have either. Given the DUP's origins (the Protestant Unionist Party) and the strong views of its leader on Catholicism, I believe it's a fair comment to make. Even were our hypothetical Ulster Catholic so pro-Union they felt more comfortable with the DUP than the UUP, the DUP might not feel so comfortable with them. Ditto your hypothetical BNP-admiring Jew.
Lapsed Pacifist 12:24, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
- "You are claiming the DUP has Catholic members" — no I am not. I am removing your claim, not inserting mine. I am making no claim whatsoever about the DUP's membership. Demiurge 12:39, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
I changed my edit from "no Catholic members" to "no known Catholic members". What's wrong now? Some are known to you, but no-one else on Wikipedia? Do fill us in.
Lapsed Pacifist 10:46, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
- "no known Catholic members" — not known to who exactly? Wikipedia:Avoid weasel terms Demiurge 11:22, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Not known to anyone, as far as I know. Unless you're going to surprise us all...?
Lapsed Pacifist 17:18, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
