Talk:Delphic Hymns
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[edit] Modern performance recordings available?
With the undertanding that any modern performances of the ancient hymns would, obviously, be interpretations and not faithful to the original performances, does anyone have any links to modern performances and recordings? Or, even a MIDI or digital audio file of the notes played as shown in the article? --NightMonkey 01:49, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
- I could make a MIDI file of it easily, if that would help. It's a little misleading since we have absolutely no idea how they performed this stuff, and it would sound rather "plain." (I think the music was sung by the chorus while the kithara player improvised some kind of embellishments, but I can't put that in the article 'cuz it's just my guess.) In the standard MIDI spec I think there's several plucked strings that would be appropriate sounds. Antandrus (talk) 02:19, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
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- FYI there is a recording available called "Ancient Greek Music" by the Atrium Musicae de Madrid, released in 1979 on Harmonia Mundi, that contains interpretations on reconstructed instruments of pretty much all the ancient Greek and Roman musical output that has survived to the present, including the first Delphic Hymn to Apollo. There's also information on a more recent CD here. --Gene_poole 02:39, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Original notation?
I'd be interested in seeing a picture of the original epitaph, if that's possible. It would also be interesting to read a history of the transcription of the hymn into modern notation. ----
- Here you go: [1] -- I'd love to use it in the article but we'd have to write for permission to put that picture under our license. The music notation is the little symbols above the letters. The Seikilos epitaph is done similarly, and there is a photo of that on the internet somewhere as well. Antandrus (talk) 05:09, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
"Permission for noncommercial educational use granted" it says. Doesn't Wiki come under that? This is the 2nd, and the image in the article is the 1st, no? Oh, and does anyone know of info about how they know what the symbols mean (i.e.,"a history of the transcription of the hymn into modern notation")? Do we have an article on ancient musical notation that we could link to?
- We probably can use the image; however if we put it under GFDL, someone else could use it for non-educational commercial use (I think) violating the original permission. I'm no expert on this stuff. And yes we definitely need an article on ancient Greek music notation (that's the only kind I know anything about) ... it's just not written yet. Antandrus (talk) 14:55, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
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- It seems to me, that given it is a photograph of just the face of the tablet, that it is a public-domain antiquity, ineligible for copyright or any noncommercial licensing. Ziggur 20:22, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
I shall await the article with bated breath. I was already curious about ancient notation (the only kind I know about is European christian). I can't remember; can we link a picture without putting it under GFDL? Or does that just not work?
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- Hey, just wondering what prompted you to delete the image. A photograph of a document, painting, etc. in antiquity, at least in the U.S., should be public domain. See Feist Publications v. Rural Telephone Service. While that case does not relate directly to copyright over photos of public domain art, it does establish that creativity is needed for a copyright to be valid. A documenting photo showing only the work in question at a dead-on angle for the best reproduction of the original therefore should not fall under copyright and the person has no right to license it noncommercially. Ziggur 20:17, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
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