Talk:Dell Dimension

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This article was previously nominated for deletion. Consider the following prior discussions before re-nominating:

Redirect to Dell, Inc. (but later reinstated), Jun 26, 2005, see discussion.
Keep (ratifying current situation after accidental reposting of old discussion), 13 October 2005, see discussion.

1 Resent edits
2 History
3 Keep
4 Keep
5 Keep
6 Fan Problem
7 Discontinuation
8 Image:Dell_dimension.JPG
9 Concerning the removal of the backwards fan statement
10 I agree with your decision to reinstate that Dimension 4700 article
11 I am a Dell representative
12 Nice to Hear from Dell on the 4700 Issue
13 4700 Backwards Fan Back?
14 Dimension 2400 redirects to Dell Dimension

[edit] Resent edits

check your facts i belive the integrated video card in the E520 is a X3000 not a radeon X300 and dell has AMD computer already...

[edit] History

I have written the new Dell Dimension article, and tried to find the history behind the product series using Google, but I was unsucessfull. Can anyone help inprove this article? --Admiral Roo 12:22, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Keep

keep the article —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.129.101.179 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Keep

If not keep, than move to Dell 4700. That is a serious issue/fire hazzard. Not only can that destroy a customers computer, it may also harm the customer —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.123.58.69 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Keep

Right now there just isn't enough info about the Dimension product line to justify creating separate articles for each model. I've directed the search terms "Dell 4700", "Dimension 4700", and "Dell Dimension 4700" to this article. It may not *seem* astheticly pleasing to have specific info about just one Dimension model and no others but the lack of information about other models is not a justification to further obscure relevent Dimension info by hiding it behind another link.--Onesloth 09:03, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fan Problem

The info about the 4700 fan problem was removed from the article without any edit summary or discussion comment so I reverted it. If there is a reason you believe this info shouldn't be here explain it please.--Onesloth 09:03, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discontinuation

As of late, the 4700 model has been discontinued; there is now (as the top of the models) the 5150 model

[edit] Image:Dell_dimension.JPG

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[edit] Concerning the removal of the backwards fan statement

It seems very interesting to me that this article was removed also with no notice...the reason it was interesting to me, is that I have a Dell Dimension 4700 that happen to overheat due to the improperly installed fan (yes it was installed in reverse). Thankfully Dell agreed that it was install incorrectly and has since replaced all affected components. As to who edited this article and claimed that having the air blow inwards is the correct fan configuration, instead of having the air blow out of the case, is just plain wrong. Not to say that there are not computers made that way, but the dimension 4700 is not one of them. A sure way to know this is that the cpu only has a heat sink, not a heatsink and fan combo, along with a shroud that covers the heatsink and directs the heat from the cpu directly out of the pc case. Good move on changing this article back as it is a serious problem that Dell needs to address before someones home and/or property is destroyed due to fire.

[edit] I agree with your decision to reinstate that Dimension 4700 article

That's all I have to say on this issue.

A former dimension 4700 owner.

[edit] I am a Dell representative

My name is John, and I am a customer advocate at Dell headquarters.

Unfortunately, the problem as cited in this article is incorrect. I have taken this article to our engineering department, and they have informed me that the Dimension 4700 was designed with the intent that the rear fan blow inward due to the specific cooling needs of the processor and chipset on this system. I have also received engineering documentation which clearly shows the correct fan orientation, and the fan is depicted in these engineering documents to be blowing inward. Unfortunately these documents include Dell internal information, and are not for public release.

It is my understanding that reversing the fan's orientation so that the fan blows out will reduce the case's internal temperature several degrees, but will also increase the CPU temperature to the point where performance will be degraded. The increase of case air temperature that comes with the correct orientation of this fan is within the specifications for this system and presents no hazard. If a customer is experiencing overheating problems with their 4700 it is not due to the factory fan orientation, but rather to a malfunction.

If any of you would like to discuss this with me, please feel free to email me at customer_advocate@dell.com.

[edit] Nice to Hear from Dell on the 4700 Issue

John (from Dell),

Your response will hopefully bring this issue to closure.

A Dell Community Forum Member

[edit] 4700 Backwards Fan Back?

As I stated before, this system was engineered to pull air into the case and directly over the CPU due to the cooling needs of this particular chip. To encourage people to reverse the fan so air is being blown out of the case is actually encouraging people to make harmful modifications to their systems.

This system was designed to have air pulled directly into the system to the CPU heat sink/shroud, and this fact is verified by internal engineering documents I have personally examined.

To prevent the dissemination of incorrect information I highly recommend the removal of the incorrect assertion contained within this article, i.e. fans were being installed backwards at the factory, and what orientation that actually is. From an engineering perspective, all 4700 fans should be installed in an orientation that would normally be considered 'backwards' on other systems.

John

Dell Customer Advocate

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 143.166.255.41 (talk • contribs). (20 Oct 06)

I'm just saying this so I can keep my job. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.40.83.254 (talk • contribs). (23 Oct 06) ((Disclaimer: Removed comment was re-inserted by Fourohfour, I am not the author, and do not endorse it if it is deliberate misrepresentation, but I don't feel this should have been removed. Particularly as following comment makes less sense outwith context!)

P.S.-

To the person that edited my comment with the words at the end: "I am just doing this so I can keep my job."

Dell is making great effort to be transparent as much as possible. The information I have given you is correct, and was given in the spirit of transparency and cooperation with the editors of this article. It is our thought that this type of communication is healthy and promotes goodwill between our company and communities such as this. To blatantly modify my post with those words in an attempt to vilify a Dell representative attempting to ensure correct information is provided you for your project is in direct opposition to the journalistic spirit your community is trying to achieve.

It is my sincere hope that such vandalism is not supported by the majority of the members of this community. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 143.166.226.42 (talk • contribs). (10 Nov 06)