Talk:Delaware Valley

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[edit] Map

Can someone who lives in the Delaware Valley provide a map, please? Eric Forste 00:52, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Northeastern Delaware Valley

I left in a note at the end of the first part of this article noting that "Delaware Valley" is also used for a small region in the northeastern corner of PA. If this could somehow be expanded that would be good.

[edit] Unofficial "Metropolitan Areas" vs. Metropolitan Statistical Areas

We shouldn't confuse unofficial and vague ideas of metropolitan areas with specific census-defined Metropolitan Statistical Areas. The Philadelphia-Wilmington-Atlantic City Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area is a group of counties defined by the U.S. Census to exist. This is what is discussed in this article. The "Delaware Valley" is a vague term used unofficially. There is no reason to suggest that it is identical to the Census Bureau's Philadelphia-Wilmington-Atlantic City Consolidated Metropolitan Area. For instance, I doubt most people would recognize Cecil County, Maryland or Cape May County, New Jersey as part of the "Delaware Valley," even if they are part of the Philadelphia-Wilmington-Atlantic City Consolidated Metropolitan Area. We need to stop acting as though the areas defined by the census area are an NPOV description of metropolitan areas in the US. For instance, the Washington-Baltimore CMSA is ridiculously huge, including almost entirely rural counties as far out as West Virginia or Maryland's Eastern Shore. Many have suggested that this definition is largely done in order to lower the government's cost of living assessments for federal workers by including lots of cheap, rural areas in the metropolitan area where so many federal employees live. I think we need to get our acts together on this. john k 04:20, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

  • I've heard that theory but I don't believe it. There's a mathematical formula, mostly related to commuting, that determines what goes in which MSA. That's why Trenton is in the New York metro... NY/North Jersey's job market is a lot stronger than Philly's, so more people commute in that direction. It's not some diabolical plan to screw people over. It's fairly scientific, and commute patterns change w/ every census, which is why the metro areas change as well. Passdoubt | Talk 19:39, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

The CSA defined in the article is not consistent with the US Census definition. Cape May, Atlantic City, ane Mercer counties are not included in the Census definition. Polaron 03:08, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Clarifications?

I was going to clean the top of this article up a bit, but I found I didn't really know how to. What's with that first sentence? I'm not even sure what it's trying to say with the state's linked up together like that. What's a CSA? Also, what's the source for the population figures added on October 18, 2005?

[edit] suburbs

Should it be noted that the suburbs less than 10000 list overlaps with the suburbs more than 10000 list? (Example: Cornwells Heights is in Bensalem Township, Trevose is in both Bensalem and Lower Southampton Township), etc. ?

[edit] New TV/Radio table?

Any reactions/suggestions (regestions) for an addition with TV/Radio table in this article? Possible titles include "Media" or "Television and Radio" Bill D 15:01, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Television

Channel Callsign Affiliation Format Ident
3 KYW CBS Air, DT CBS3 Logo
6 WPVI ABC Air, DT 6ABC Logo
10 WCAU NBC Air, DT NBC10 Logo
29 WTXF Fox29.jpg air,DT Image:FOX29.jpg

[edit] Combined Statistical Area redefinition

See this OMB bulletin. The Reading Metropolitan Statistical Area is now part of the Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland CSA. --Polaron | Talk 01:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I adjusted the map accordingly. Kmusser 12:58, 28 August 2006 (UTC)