Talk:Debka.com
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[edit] NPOV?
This article is in some need of balancing. I've never heard of Debka and will admit I do not know much about it, but aren't there any comments by others that might portray it in a positive light? Also, references to propaganda, "hawkishness" and so on do not seem to be NPOV. --Impaciente 22:44, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- I just added a positive comment. As for propaganda, well it is fabricated news. I am sorry I wish there was more to say, but when it is propaganda, then it is not POV to say that it is so. We are not talking about a couple of journalistic errors over some years. It is like every month new unreferenced and wildly fantastic claims appear, and after time passes and the news they report on become more researched it becomes clear that it was just invented news. It is not like they state those claims to be speculation that is no problem if they did. They always refer to their secret contacts in the intelligence community, and present these fantastic stories to be facts. And the other thing is that alot of these stories seems bend on getting people to accept that US needs to go to war with Syria. So that is propaganda by the definition of the word. -- A human 00:57, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Debka was created by ex-mosad agents. what you claim is fabricated news is largely information that other news sources are not privy to due to the fact that Debka (becasue of its roots) has soecial contacts and connections. This article is largely an accusation and it does little to convey facts about the site. even the paragraph that accused debka of fabricating news admited that other newsources (CNN) only get the information later. this implies good reporting and good contacts, not fabrication.~~ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 160.39.139.20 (talk • contribs).
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- "This article is largely an accusation". That is simply not true. Most of the article is praise over information they write that cannot be gotten other places, I do not dispute that. But after having followed its stories over the years it becomes evident for us that much of it is speculation. That in itself is not a problem, only problem here is that the reader does not know which part is speculation and which part is information from their sources. Maybe it is because they do not know it, maybe their sources speculate and does not tell what is fact and what is might be. As many has pointed out, DEBKAfile is probably a front for Mossad, such fronts is common for intel services. It is also common for such fronts to spin the news or fabricate stuff that will influence peoples opinions. Nothing special about that. A human 01:44, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
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Are quotes about Debka file appropiate? Do they not serve as advertising for what is afterall a commerical website which itself profits from advertising. I think they should be removed.
- I'm inclined to agree with the above poster. 69.116.150.174 23:56, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- If there is a problem with the article, fix it. --JWSchmidt 01:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- This page is pretty biased. It serves as an effect advertisement for DebkaFile, and conveniently omits entirely their pervasive and sometimes-insane Israeli nationalist bias (and I say this as someone generally pro-Israeli, and someone who read DebkaFile for years). Until it is fixed, it warrants the warning templates to show readers that there is something wrong with this article. Rebecca 03:43, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- If it is so obvious that the article is biased then it should be easy to fix the problem. Cite some sources that describe the "insane" aspects of debka.com --JWSchmidt 03:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] DEBKA Is NPOV, CNN, BBC, etc. Is POV
Besides for posting news that CNN doesnt post, DEBKA doesnt side with any side in the Israel-Palestinian conflict, CNN and others will try to side with the palestinians by using misleading words [see honestreportings.com]. Debka simply doesnt use those words, Debka is not an israeli nationalistic type of site like Arutz 7 so it doesnt really side with Israel.--69.114.174.131 00:52, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I believe the site you mean is honestreporting.com, which appears to be simply Zionist propoganda to me. They claim that everything which suggests that Israel is doing something wrong, even opinion pieces, is evidence that the media is biased. --Silver2195 12:14, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I agree that DEBKA File is Zionist propaganda. I have caught them fabricating things on a number of occasions. I also think that this article is written as simply an advertisement for DEBKA and assumes that the Israeli versions of things is the unquestionable truth. This is shameless second rate salesmanship and not scholarship. Wikipedia needs to intervene here. Does not your credibility matter to you?
[edit] Washington Post on DEBKAfile & Misinformation
I have searched Washington Post and could not find the article the link refers to. Maybe the story is made up. A human 08:04, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oh my goodness this article has problems. I know nothing about the website, but the article reeks of speculation and theory. Isomorphic 08:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Hey it is one of my firsts tries at making articles, am doing my best. Which problems does it have? A human 09:56, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia articles that uses DEBKAfile as reference
I found these 4 articles in Hebrew that references to DEBKAfile. I find that bery troubling due to:
- DEBKAfile is not trustworthy, it has very radical POV.
- I do not understand what the articles use the reference for.
- The english version of the same articles do not reference DEBKAfile.
Here they are:
Articles that use DEBKAfile as reference
Maybe somebody how can speak Hebrew should check it out.
A human 11:16, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
It worries me that DEBKAfile seems to be the only source for this article: Abu_Hafiza
A human 11:21, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Strange editions
Whats with all the wierd deletions. And the inserting of this sentence:
"Iran risking nuclear escalation: US" by User:Rchamberlain and User:209.179.168.36?
I have rephrased some of my original text. But they are not POV as I have documented how the site carries plenty of invented news. So stop deleting it, unless you replace it with a better text. -- A human 01:38, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] quotes not found from IGOR BOOG website
I have removed the content as its not verifiable and should not be quoted.
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- Fixed quote to reflect new source. Revelations 09:10, 28 March 2006 (UTC)