Talk:Death of a Ladies' Man

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[edit] Putting poeple off

"Produced by the storied Phil Spector, it was a surprise to some fans when the typically minimalist Cohen was surrounded completely by Spector's Wall of Sound."

Did this album "put people off?" I have heard many fans were dissapointed by the sound. I can compare it with the sort of surprise the Bob Dylan fans got with Dylan's own double album Self Portrait.

It's an acquired taste. I do wish the sound were better, though. – Hattrem 23:47, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

By coinsidence (or conspiricy, I'm not sure which) this album has backing vocals by Bob Dylan, which I didn't know about until it was added to the Bob Johnston article. I wish the wailing sax solos to be replace by more pleasent harmonica solos on future remixes.

[edit] Outtakes

There seem to be at least seven ottakes from this album, if these had not been edited out of the abum, it could have been Leonard Cohen's first double album, how unfortunate they were taken off (by double album I mean any album that takes up two LP records, even if it can be set on one compact disc).144.139.87.127

I am not sure about these outakes, there's only one mention of them - "Cohen and Spector wrote fifteen songs in three weeks, with Spector setting Cohen's lyrics to music". (Stephen Holden, "Leonard Cohen Obscured... A Haunting by Spector", Rolling Stone, January 26 1978. - [1]) - but I am not sure does that mean they actually recorded it?

Also, "Do I Have To Dance All Night?" was already released in 1976 as a single for France and Portugal (taken live in Paris 1976), with Cohen's *own* music, and Spector wrote all music for DOALM without Cohen's influence. So, "Do I Have..." was *probably* one pf outtakes, but it's sure it was an outtake from 1979' Recent Songs. One source confirms it was studio version with choir and brass, the version taken with Lewy during Recent Songs sessions, while Devlin mentioned studio version recorded in Munich in 1976, but replaced with live version from Paris for its 1976 single release. Devlin also confirms Cohen wanted to release free bonus single with Recent Songs, which would contain two outtakes, "Misty Blue" and "Do I Have To Dance All Night", but Columbia rejected the idea. - [2] Tomsak 09:12, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, unless the Recent Songs outtake with choir and brass is the 1976 recording.

Like you, I also wonder whether the seven remaining songs for Death of a Ladies' Man were recorded or not. (While Spector is indeed supposed to have composed all the music, Cohen has told a story about them sitting down at the piano together and writing songs.) – Hattrem 04:11, 10 December 2005 (UTC)