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Contents 1 Open Ended 2 Boss fight with Convicts 3 Removed 4 Demo 5 Vandalisme 6 Not banned 7 The Demo 8 Possible Controversy 9 surprised ? 10 Censored in Japan? 11 Tone? 12 PC version? 13 Child's Play reference. 14 MSP? 15 Trivia Section 16 Added: Controversey/Small Text 17 General Cleanliness of the page! 18 game causes 360 to crash? 19 Reviews/ Reactions 20 Story section 21 Rating in Germany 22 Dead Rising is at least also coming to the PS3. 23 Where's the merge discussion? 24 Removed the Frank West Article Text 25 WP:EL 26 Writing tense and spacing 27 Soundtrack listing 28 Storyboard? 29 Ranking Board 30 List → Prose

[edit] Open Ended

What happened to the Open Ended section---should this be redone or removed? Chris4682

[edit] Boss fight with Convicts

In the song that plays when you face them, the lyrics include "fat cup of piss" and "give me some Swiss Miss" within two lines. Talk about meaningful lyrics.

[edit] Removed

I removed this sentence: the extended tv spot of Dead Rising has revealed that it was actually a lawnmower, NOT a snowblower

...and changed the text to lawnmower

Signed: Travb (talk) 02:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Putting this in the same section as the lawnmower bit, but some immature person wrote in Kent's entry: "Also when he dies, he asks Frank to "suck my dick.""

Signed: Anonomous 05:21, 6 September 2006 (US Central Time)

[edit] Demo

Dead Rising demo just around the corner.

Posted on Tuesday, August 1st, 2006

www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=143688

"An arrival date for the demo has yet to be confirmed, but a spokesperson for Capcom’s Euro arm informed us this morning that news on that should be released shortly - like within the next 48 hours."

Signed: Travb (talk) 08:37, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalisme

What liked of vandalisme was there on this Wiki? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.255.60.43 (talk • contribs).

Please SIGN YOUR POSTS USING ~~~~~. Also new posts go at the bottom. I dont understand your question. Travb (talk) 17:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not banned

the rumor that the Dead rising was band in Germany has been debunked by 1up.com [1]. there for need to be changed or removed. --Sinper 09:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Signed: Travb (talk) 09:26, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

that was called for seeing as i still learning how wikipedia works and that it had a post restriction on it.:|--Sinper 16:43, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I find that rumour kind of ironic actually. I understand that ther are several other games that have been altered in Germany so that humans that are likely to die are represented as zombies or robots. Seems to me that indictes that Germany is okay with the concept of mass zombie death. Master Deusoma 22:41, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Demo

Recently, I discovered the demo on Xbox Live Marketplace as of August 4th. Made the appropriate change. CyborgZeta 12:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Awesome Cyborrg--thanks A LOT! I love wikipedia. Travb (talk) 16:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Go figure, all the blogs are talking about it: http://technorati.com/search/dead%20rising%20demo

...but I can't see it. The blogs all have a link here: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/d/deadrising/default.htm signed: Travb (talk) 16:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Controversy

There has been many threads around the Internet complaining about the "nudity" descriptor on the box. Although i havent see any as thus. I heard that taking pictures of women's cleavage will earn you extra PP (Prestiege Points),which in turn, increases your experience. TantricNferno 21:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)TantricNferno

good chance thats what they are talking about seeing as some of the female zombies are walking around in their panties.--Sinper 16:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I haven't played the game myself, but did find it odd that GameSpot's review said you could take photographs in "drama, horror, or erotic" categories. Seems to me that a mall full of the dead is not a good place to get your groove on. Master Deusoma 16:47, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

The game allows players to take suggestive photos of female zombies, that are attributed to an 'Erotica' category of photographs. The photos are stored in a 'Picture Viewer' pause option, where they can be kept or discarded. Kinda creepy when a zombie runs up to you with a pink icon flashing on her chest every 2 seconds. Pacifiedcitizen 04:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

The partial nudity probably refers to the impaled naked mannekin that the Cultists have.--Unregistered User

[edit] surprised ?

i was really surprised when i read the description.. this game looks like a clone of Flesh Feast the video game... Tyriel 17:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

he right, looking for the images from IGN and other game site it looks similar to it but, the demo of the game shall tell the main different between the two is that it has more of a RPG setting rather than all out action with RPG leveing features which have become common in most games.

[edit] Censored in Japan?

The DR demo hit XBox Live in Japan as well, and according to a Japanese blog it's getting censored somewhat -- Capcom cleaned up some of the more violent aspects of zombie killing (namely decapitations). Insert Credit and kotaku both mentioned that it's not going to be possible to accidentally (or, if you're sadistic enough, purposefully) kill innocent bystanders, but I didn't see that in the post.

This is my translation and it may not be 100% accurate, but once more information comes out about the Japanese release (around the end of the September, more than likely) it may be 100% confirmed or debunked.

I didn't get to play the North American demo, but a development version of the domestic release.

I'll updates my report about the game in a few days, but for now here are my first impressions.

I'm not going to be scared by these zombies! ヽ(´ー｀)ノ

The area's surrounded by about 50 zombies, and even though it seemed like it was impossible to make it through, I got 50 kills by just hitting the zombies up close (laugh)

I understand I'm playing a journalist, but why bother taking pictures? (laugh)

I'm REALLY impressed by the dozens of zombies here! ヽ(´ー｀)ノ

Incidently, the domestic version is different from the North American edition; I hear that they're removing some of the more shocking aspects here.

For instance, the loss of body parts... I was able to remove the right arm but I wasn't able to perform a decapitation.

At first, they were going to give it a Z rating, but it seems like they're developing for a different rating now.

However, although I haven't played the American version, it seems they kept in all of the blood! When a zombie was hit with a bench, the ground was covered in it (laugh)

I'm not sure whether these censors will affect the game sales, I'm thinking that the domestic version will do for me.

Here's where I saw it mentioned: [2]

And here's the blog: [3] --Maikeru 22:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tone?

In the "Save System" section, the tone seems a bit inappropriate for Wikipedia: "Since the main plot quests are on a fixed timeline, getting lost and enjoying yourself in the open world of the mall could leave you playing the initial parts of the game repeatedly (probably more efficiently each time, if that's a consolation)."

I propose removing the paranthetical remarks at the end, and changing the sentence as a whole from the second-person to the third-person. Thoughts? ellF 15:46, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe I read that sentence word-for-word in one of the review articles; however, as it is not sourced as such, it can probably be removed.FDeziel 11:42, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PC version?

Is there any talk of them planning to port it to the PC anytime soon or do I have another reason to loathe gaming consoles and Microsoft? — Ashmodai ^{(talk · contribs)} 20:31, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

There has not been any announcement of a PC port, although any game receiving this much press will inevitably see requests for it in the media and amongst gamers. FDeziel 20:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Child's Play reference.

Isn't there a toy store in the game called "Child's Play?" And if so is this a reference to the movie of the same name? The one with Chucky?

[edit] MSP?

I would move for this game to be categorized as a Massively single-player game. Fifty7 17:32, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

The MSP article notes: "A massively single-player" game is one in which player-created content is asynchronously downloaded from thousands of other users' computers", which is NOT a function of Dead Rising. There has been some DLC available (New outfits), but no player-created content. I agree that there needs to be some new terminology to address "big" games like Oblivion and Dead Rising, but I don't think MSP applies here GilloD 15:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

--65.185.108.212 14:41, 21 August 2006 (UTC)== Offensive Message? ==

I've heard people mention the message of the game as being: "fat Americans are willing to destroy a city just so they can keep eating" because every fat person in the game is evil, moronic, or both, and almost all of them represent an aspect of American culture (i.e. Rednecks, Cops, etc.). does anyone else agree? and should that be on the article?

Yes, I've also heard people mention that the crazy clown with the chainsaws represents Bush.

How so?

The above is mere speculation and conjecture; if you wish to include it in the page you will need to locate and reference the source of these allegations. Please sign your posts with four tildes (~). FDeziel 11:42, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it's a "message" or not, but there is in fact at least one survivor who thinks with his stomach. I think his name was either Kevin or Randall. You find him in a restaurant, whining about how he is starving to death, completely ignoring the fact that he's surrounded by the living dead. He'll only join you when you give him some kind of food, and when he gets back to the security room, he attempts to get other survivors to join him in going back to the mall to hunt for food, unless you give him more. Annoying? Yes, very much so. Political Message... I dunno. Master Deusoma 22:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

"eat to live" vs "live to eat" is definetely an underlying theme here, especially if you see the game through to the very end (the quote after credits, not included to avoid spoilering). With zombies, their unquenchable hunger is one of the reasons why we find them so repulsive. But i think taking it personally as "Capcom hates fatty americans!" is a little extreme. One of the "bigger" bosses even happens to be a rather large man of asian descent. If anything, i think of it as more of a story of first world exploiting third world with its excess, and commenting on a more global view of human nature. [[User:|User:]] 15:12, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I think the reason it can be taken as being directed at Americans is Carlito comparing Americans to zombies when he says "All they do is eat, and eat and grow in number. Just like you good old red, white and blue Americans" Lucas B.-G. --65.185.108.212 14:41, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Modern zombie horror, since its inception in the 60s, has always been about the mindless consumption of Americans. It isn't just food, it's mindless consumption. Why do you think it takes place in a shopping mall? The "psychopaths" represent all the extremists in the U.S., gun-nuts, religious-nuts, war-mongers, violent criminals, workaholics, etc., and the zombies represent all the rest of Americans, mindlessly wandering shopping malls and slowly devouring any spark of real life.--The Yar 21:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

It's been said in interviews that the theme of the zombies, the American shopping mall, the needing more cows to feed America was tongue-in-cheek. So, it was intentional, so it might be wroth noting in the article. 69.29.217.154 06:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)Some Guy

[edit] Trivia Section

There appears to be a need to discuss whether or not the 'trivia' section should be included or excluded from the article, given it has been removed and re-added several times by various people. Please discuss this issue here. For what it's worth, please note that a large proportion of Movie entries in the Wiki have extensive trivia sections (though these are often lifted directly from imdb). FDeziel 16:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Tell me, is the trivia relevant to the article? The information is so indiscriminate that there's no way it is relevant. The people putting it back up seem to have no knowledge of the policies and guidelines, and they also appear to be actively adding trivia to other articles. This is an encyclopedia, not a freaking trivia guide. I suggest reading Wikipedia:NOT. "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information". --TheEmulatorGuy 19:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Nobody actually adding the Trivia seems to be willing to respond, so I'll take a shot at it. Some of the trivial is relevant, some of it isn't. Listing every MegaMan and other Capcom game reference in the game certainly is indiscriminate (which is why I've condensed it to a single point), while noting that the game contains an abundance of references to previous games by the same devleoper isn't. Nor do I think it is indiscriminate to note that the game bears such a striking resemblance to Dawn of the Dead that the developers felt a need to insert a disclaimer on the game saying that they're not connected. I agree that Wikipedia is not a trivia guide, but I think this sort of information is relevant to the article and best conveyed in the current format. A large number of media related wiki entries for media related topics such as Movies, TV, and Video Games (including those at the Featured Article level) contain trivia sections with this sort of information where it is relevant to the article. FDeziel 16:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Characters "Jack" and "Thompson" are mentioned as a jab at Jack Thompson, but the character's name is actually Thomas.

I think the Trivia section is fine. There are a lot of little cameos and obscure Capcom refrences (Jill's Sandwiches) that don't really belong anywhere else in the article, but remain relevant to the game's being. GilloD 15:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

They don't really belong anywhere in the article at all and have no particular relevance to the game's being (at least in an existential way:) ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 01:50, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Made this text: #

1. "True Ending" final Frank's scream "Nooo" is a direct reference to Evil Dead Trilogy. Every movie ends with similar "Nooo" by Ash. Last scene for third part Army of Darkness was altered to happy ending, but you still can see it on DVD edition and in comic book.

A little less broken-English GilloD 01:18, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added: Controversey/Small Text

I added a small secction regarding the issues with mission text. It seems to have ignited enough a storm to pop up all the news sites, so I figured it should be in here. I Ref'ed the Xbox.com post from Capcom as well. Feel free to tidy it up

Whoever cleaned it up: Thanks :) "Issues" is maybe a better title, although "Controversy" was somewhat deliberately chosen as it leads to larger issues involving SD/HD resolutions in next-gen gaming. GilloD 15:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] General Cleanliness of the page!

PLEASE use "Show Preview". Over the last day or so I've fixed a couple of unclosed tags, there's a broken refrence (#9) and a ((spoiler)) right at the get go. Little things show up really fast and make it look unprofessional.

For further ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Spoiler_warning, the user used (()) and not {{}}.

Anyone know what #9 referred to? GilloD 00:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The 'weapon' section really needs a good clean up imo, Most of it isnt "Fit as an encyclopedic entry". Not trying to offend the author or anything ~asbad

[edit] game causes 360 to crash?

• Not long after the game was released, Attack of the Show on G4 was making a huge deal about the game saying that it was causing some Xbox 360's to crash -- sometimes permanently. I haven't heard about this problem anywhere else so I'm starting to wonder, is this even true or is this just a bunch of crap that they made up?DarthMaul431 21:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to know about that. I don't have a 360, but my friend does, owns the game, and hasn't had a crash yet -- but I've warned him to stop playing it, just in case, and such. I didn't see "Attack of the Show" (as I don't get G4 anymore), so I heard it from a friend of mine. Can anyone find something to verify this somewhere? (I honestly came to the article with the intent to find an answer to that.) Mattfish 21:47, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

A viewer also emailed this question to X-Play a while back. Adam said he had no problem. The co-host (Morgan was on vacation I believe) had seen it happen. They both agreed it was a problem with defective 360s that would have the same thing happen with Oblivion, or generally any game that used all three processors. It is essentially a luck of the draw. Mrmacken 22:35, 11 September 2006

Just a quick note, my 360 which was bought in '05 did crash, and had to be replaced after playing Dead Rising. Rumor on the internets is that it is because of the more sophisticated graphics, DR is the first 360 game to use all three processing cores, which elevates the heat output that could crash the earlier manufactured 360's. 69.29.217.154 06:17, 14 October 2006 (UTC)Some Guy

The game has crashed three times over several hours of play in my new 360 which was made in summer 2006. On two occasions the game reports that the disk can not be read, even though the disk is new, then crashes to the 360 dashboard. Shawnc 21:21, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reviews/ Reactions

I have changed the line about the GWN review score. It was previously 99% but I checked the original review and found it is actually 89%. 67.160.210.240 20:07, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Story section

There's a great summary of the game's story, but it's in Frank's article. Should it be moved here perhaps? --Oscarthecat 16:13, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rating in Germany

It doesn't matter whether Microsoft would allow unrated games to be released on one of their system, the German law wouldn't allow an unrated game to be sold anyway. --84.184.127.145 19:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dead Rising is at least also coming to the PS3.

Is there any chance of Dead Rising coming to other game consoles down the road like how Resident Evil 4 which was originally exclusive to Gamecube, a year later it came to PS2? Please if anyone has any knowledge, please let me know. RVDDP2501 14:37, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

My understanding is that Microsoft contracted Capcom for this game, and has exclusive rights for its publishing. I don't imagine that Microsoft will be generous enough to publish the game on its competitors' platforms in the forseeable future.--Ryan! 04:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

It's possible, but unannoucned. Given the popularity of the game, and Capcom's reputation for only having "timed" exclusives, it might come to the PS3 or PC, but I'd be doughtful of it coming to any other system because of their inferior specs 69.29.217.154 06:19, 14 October 2006 (UTC)Some Guy

It's coming to PS3, and this was revealed in an interview with Capcom's UK operations as far back as May 06. Note to Some Guy, please don't cite "specs" to back up pure conjecture. At this stage in the game there are no "specs" that act as limiting factors.69.231.221.245 20:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where's the merge discussion?

I don't see one on this talk page, so I'll take the initiative.

Oppose merge - And I also oppose Frank West's article to be merged into this one. West's article should focus on what the character goes through rather than rehash the storyline. But merging the video game article to the main character's article is ridiculous. - Throw 16:26, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Merge - There is only a small amount of information specific to Frank's character in the Frank West sub article. The rest of it is the story of the game which happens to center around Frank West. The two paragraphs on Frank would be better served starting the character section of this article, followed by supporting characters, followed by the psychopaths. The Frank West article should be switched to a Dead Rising Story Article, which wouldn't be a drastic change by any means. Hewinsj 12:46, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Oppose - There's a lot of quality original info in Frank's topic. I say leave it and improve it even more. - Mewtation 21:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed the Frank West Article Text

I decided to be bold and clean up the bottom of the article. If anyone disagrees with that you can revert it, but give a good reason why. If someone wants to merge these documents, try and discuss it with others and come to concensus about how to do it (perhaps creating a story article in FW's place and adding the two paragraphs at the top of the FW article to the character section here). Don't just add the text from Frank_West_(Dead_Rising)'s edit page at the bottom of this one. As a matter of keeping things tidy there shouldn't be any text added after the external references, and that's too much data to just paste into the middle of this article without either editing it down or posting it in a separate linked article. Hewinsj 19:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:EL

There is a huge number of external links on this article. Someone who knows more about the subject than I may want to trim them a bit...--Anaraug 02:50, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Writing tense and spacing

"After that, Isabela would promise Frank that he would get an interview with Carlito who later shoots her out of anger. After helping Isabela, she would join Frank's side and help them stop her brother. By the final hours of the game, if Frank does not stop to see Isabela at 10:00 A.M. when Brock and his Special Forces leave the mall, you would earn Ending C. Otherwise, you would earn Ending A by completing all of the cases. Isabela plays a vital role in Overtime Mode, which unlocks after acquiring Ending A, and completing that would earn the player the True Ending."

Who writes it this way? It's incredibly farking annoying, and if you read around, you'll notice that synposes are written in the present tense. And one space after the period. Please don't write like the paragraph above, it makes things unreadable (really).

Sorry to write on your discussion, but I agree that the writing is unreadable and boring!

[edit] Soundtrack listing

I was wondering if its possible to include a list of the songs that appear in Dead Rising, which you can find during the credits of the game? - RVDDP2501 23:12, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Storyboard?

My friend had an idea of creating a storyboard type of discussion. In which people send in their stories using characters from the game and other users grade them e.g A,B,C etc.

What?

[edit] Ranking Board

Unless someone has a reason otherwise, I'm going to remove the ranking board. It is not noteable. --72.43.103.251 15:58, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List → Prose

Wow, this entire article is just filled to the brim with lists. This needs a serious, major rewrite. --SeizureDog 12:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I've given it a go. There's still work to be done, and I'm not saying that what I've changed is automatically right, but it's a start. The Skoot 12:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I have also done a bit of editing to a degree, the survivor notebook section I will be looking to give that its own article, as i believe that it could be expanded, reducing the lists enven furtherWarDragon 01:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)