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January 2006 – April 2006

Contents 1 "HE KILLED A GUY", ad nauseam ;) 2 Tawkerbot2 3 Chris Busse 4 RE:LZ Clean up 5 Sharting 6 AfD 7 Awwww.... 8 Hey 9 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Attractiveness, Self-Image and Body-Type Preferences among Whites and African Americans 10 VandalProof 1.1 is Now Available For Download 11 Crop circles 12 Alex Duerre is not speediable 13 Re:List of bands named after places 14 DJ P Page neutrality 15 DJ P page 16 Question 17 hey 18 Could you peek at something for me? 19 VandalProof 1.2 Now Available 20 Talk:Truck balls 21 informal vs formal fallacies

[edit] "HE KILLED A GUY", ad nauseam ;)

FYI, I've added something to the WP:AIV "complex" page about this whole weird business. Hopefully somebody more l33t than myself can do something soon. Yansa 05:06, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. It appears that Dalip Singh really did KILL A GUY!!!, though. Holy mackerel.  : ) dbtfz^talk 05:16, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tawkerbot2

What I think happened was in the split second before the bot grabbed the page you reverted and it grabbed the wrong text. Sorry about that, I'll see what I can do to stop that (that's the first time I think I've seen that happen) -- Tawker 05:12, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. dbtfz^talk 05:17, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chris Busse

Please read Wikipedia:Proposed deletion#What this process is NOT for. You are not supposed to replace the tag once it's removed. The article is now listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Busse. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 10:44, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Ooops. I knew that, but I kinda sorta forgot, I guess. dbtfz^talk 16:09, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

==Welcome to VandalProof== Thanks for your interest in VandalProof! You've been added to the list of authorized users, and feel free to contact me or post a message on VandalProof's talk page if you have any questions. AmiDaniel (Talk) 03:15, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE:LZ Clean up

All the music pages are spammed to death. I am quietly trying to weed out the fluff. I need to be more strict with myself though. WP:EL...by the rule...would mean the loss of links to pages like Electric Magic and Achilles Last Stand. Both are pages that have been around for years and have a decent amount of integrity. But, rules are rules. <sigh> I just didn't have the heart to hack 'em myself. All in due time , I guess. Take care! Anger22 03:22, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, occasionally fan sites are really good, reliable sources of information - sometimes even better than the official sites. But usually they're just spam and should be zapped with extreme prejudice.  :) dbtfz^talk 03:40, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sharting

Hi. I moved the "sharting" content back to Sharting and redirected Shitting oneself to Fecal incontinence. That just seemed more appropriate to me. Of course, you should feel free to change it back if you feel differently. Believe me, I'm not trying to pick a fight over this. That would truly be the lamest edit war ever.  :-) P.S. "I sharted!" dbtfz^talk 15:51, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I think it's good stuff, but I am concerned that if the page isn't allowed some room for expansion, then it could be be deleted the same as its predecessor at Shart. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shart (The result of the debate was Speedy delete as A 5 (was already deleted 3 times before)) and the Shart entry at wiktionary. Ewlyahoocom 02:59, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

It's a real phenomenon that everyone has experienced, but people generally don't talk about it, so it's hard to find respectable sources. As far as I know, "shart" is the first and only succinct term for it. I think that even the current stub goes beyond a dicdef in providing cultural context. It's one of the things that the most recent Oscar winner for Best Actor is most famous for. (Sad, perhaps, but true.) The article could be expanded by, e.g., providing some explanation of the physiological conditions that lead to sharting. I believe Charles Bukowski may have discussed sharting at some point in his writing (though he wouldn't have used that term for it). Also, I'm pretty sure Howard Stern has discussed the phenomenon at length on his radio show. These things could be covered in the article. I suppose the current content could be moved to a section of Fecal incontinence, but that's a very "serious" article and sharting is kind of silly (though it's very serious business if it happens to you in a public place). dbtfz^talk 04:12, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

P.S. I'm going to post this discussion on the talk page for Sharting. Any further discussion on this should take place there, so other sharters can have easy access to it. dbtfz^talk 04:19, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD

Hey - thanks, I got distracted and missed the third step. I don't want to seem rude - I see you've done some great things for wikipedia. Cheers! --Matt 03:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

No worries -- I make it a point not to take the stuff I do here too seriously or take criticism personally. I'm actually genuinely curious to see what others think of those lists. I think they're reasonably notable and interesting, but I'm biased of course, having created them myself.  :-) dbtfz^talk 03:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Awwww....

Until now I thought I was the only person who'd put an elephant crushing a guy on his userpage. We both quote Manchurian Candidate too... CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 04:03, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I guess great (or, in my case, mediocre) minds think alike. At least we have different elephants. By the way, I hadn't seen Evil reptilian kitten-eater from another planet until I just checked out your user page. Best. Article title. Ever. That's what I love about Wikipedia. You'd never see that in Encyclopedia Britannica.  :-) dbtfz^talk 04:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

[1] Was uncalled for. Please read WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. --Doc ^ask? 22:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Check who I was actually referring to as a "moron."  ;-) dbtfz^talk 22:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

OK, sorry. But perhaps you need to make the self-deprication a little more obvious. It didn't occur to me it was a self-reference. --Doc ^ask? 22:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

You're right, of course. I was just being a little mischievous.  :-) dbtfz^talk 22:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Attractiveness, Self-Image and Body-Type Preferences among Whites and African Americans

Please have a look at my contribution there. Lambiam^Talk 02:16, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof 1.1 is Now Available For Download

Happy Easter to all of you, and I hope that this version may fix your current problems and perhaps provide you with a few useful new tools. You can download version 1.1 at User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof. Let me warn you, however, to please be extremely careful when using the new Rollback All Contributions feature, as, aside from the excessive server lag it would cause if everyone began using it at once, it could seriously aggitate several editors to have their contributions reverted. If you would like to experiment with it, though, I'd be more than happy to use my many sockpuppets to create some "vandalism" for you to revert. If you have any problems downloading, installing, or otherwise, please tell me about them at User:AmiDaniel/VP/Bugs and I will do my best to help you. Thanks. AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:44, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

For someone that does not want any article to reference a commercial connection, you sure are pushing this product......

[edit] Crop circles

I have been attempting to factualize the Wikipedia page about the Crop Circle phenomenon, and the page keeps being reset to the extremely uninformed and ridicule-laden misrepresentation that has been polluting the Wikipedia propject for quite some time now. I have been doing my part to help rectify this problem, having looked deeply into the subject over several years, including field work and interviews with scientists and other long-term researchers. As I see it, there are 2 possibilities to explain the long-standing Wikipedia Crop Circle piece: 1) ignorance, perhaps acquired through "official story" channels such as Fox news etc, 2) intentional disinfo intended to steer attention away from the subject. Do you have any advice for me? THANKS -- steve —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stvjns (talk • contribs) .

Yes. Discuss it on the talk page of the article. I have no interest in this issue. dbtfz^talk 20:40, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alex Duerre is not speediable

Dbtfz, you tagged Alex Duerre for deletion, but it is not speedy-deletable, because the article does assert the notability of the individual: the assertion is that he was recognized by Congress for bravery. That does not mean that it is necessarily a valid assertion, but does mean that it cannot be deleted without further discussion. If you believe the article should be deleted, you should list it for deletion at WP:AFD (where it will most likely be deleted). Truly, JDoorjam Talk 04:24, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Oops, my mistake. Thanks for the notice. dbtfz^talk 04:31, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:List of bands named after places

Every little bit helps :) Grutness...wha? 05:41, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DJ P Page neutrality

I am editing the page to be simply a list of facts. (It had been up for maybe 5 minutes before you disputed the neutrality)

Contact me back if you feel there should be more changes made. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by B-Dubb (talk • contribs) .

(Reponded on B-Dubb's talk page.) dbtfz^talk 00:51, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DJ P page

Hey there. I have made some changes to the DJ P page (and added a redirect to D.J.P since that's what he really goes by... I started with DJ P page because that's where people have already been linking to).

I started with his official bio, which is why it had a slant to it. I have gone through and deleted everything that in MY opinion seems to have a slant, and done some rewriting. I figured I would ask you if you felt like taking another glance at it just to make sure I didn't overlook anything.

Thanks again for your help, this is the first article I have written so it's a learning process.

B-Dubb 02:06, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Be careful, he likes to give his personal, biased opinions on entries, and not objective views and assistance. Just look at the rants from the pages he has defaced in the past.......

[edit] Question

Wikipedia is feeling too combative to me these days, so I thought I'd ask something nice: Are you at all interested in adminship? If so, what are your views on IAR? If I nominated or supported you, though, it would be later (you're still a bit new) and some participation outside AfD would be nice (as if I'm the one to talk :P) Just thought I'd get you thinking about it. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 09:44, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. Yes, I would probably be interested (eventually), but I agree that I should accrue more time and experience first. Maybe in a few months.  :-) dbtfz^talk 15:10, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hey

Working on this page now. lol help me out

Robert C Baker :0 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dvorak.typist (talk • contribs) .

(Responded on user's talk page.) dbtfz^talk 01:45, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Could you peek at something for me?

I'm fairly n00b at writing Wikipedia articles, but I noticed the 'context' banner on the VLIW page. I happen to have some VLIW architecture background, so I expanded the introduction and tweaked some other aspects as well. Since you added the 'context' banner, could you take a look and see if my edit is sufficient? --Mr z 17:13, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof 1.2 Now Available

[edit] Talk:Truck balls

You posted a judgment on this subject. Not kool.

Judgments are not proper, and you seem to be defacing a lot of entries slanted toward your personal opinions. With thousands of these products sold, world wide, you should really stifle your opinion.

I was wrong. Truck balls are kool. Mea culpa,

dbtfz^talk 04:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] informal vs formal fallacies

I was wondering if you could help me out on a matter of logic, is there a difference between a formal fallacy and an informal fallacy? It relates the the article on Begging the question which appears to contradict itself Talk:Begging_the_question#This_article_appears_to_contrdict_itself_tag. Thanks, Grumpyyoungman01 05:19, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't have time to look into this, but offhand I'd say that begging the question is definitely an informal fallacy. Its basic form is "A; therefore, A" which is formally valid in classical logic and most non-classical logics. Hope that helps. dbtfz^talk 22:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)