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[edit] Thanks for adopting my suggestions

Re In the news, thanks for agreeing that the significant news should lead, in this particular case, five students being killed. Also, thanks for deleting the figure 10 but I notice you nevertheless still insisted in the edit summary 10 "*is* the total number of victims". In the interests of accuracy, let me point out that our article says five died and five were critical. Right, but that does not mean 10 were shot. In fact, the article says three were admitted to Penn State Milton S. Hershey Medical Center, four to Children's Hospital in Philadelphia and one to Christiana Hospital in Delaware. Add the three who died at the school, and that doesn't equal 10. I am puzzled why you would think it illogical to mention students and hostages when students were in a hostage situation, but never mind, it reads ok now. Moriori 07:35, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Proposed

Fine with me. Do you think we should add a link to DDV or such? >Radiant< 13:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Main Page Vietnam

Can you help me ? to insert link interwiki Vietnam: vi:Trang chính into main page of English . Thank you a lot ! NTT Vietnam

[edit] In the news chronological order

Hi David. I saw that you put the chess item up on ITN. Thanks for that. Unfortunately, the next few edits suceeded in messing up the chronological order. In the editing window it is currently labelled as "12 October", when in fact it should be "13 October". Would you be able to fix this? The relevant edits are you added it, P. F. Lai incorrectly changes date and chronological order and removes picture. There was then a sequence where Golbez added stuff that was already there, and then reverted. You then removed it, and The Tom added it back... Did you remove the chess item because it was near the bottom (I note it wasn't right at the bottom), or because you wanted to avoid more than one sports entry? What do you think about restoring the chess item to where it originally was (above the Moon entry), and letting it fall off the page naturally as more items come in? I wouldn't normally quibble about things like this, but P. F. Lai changing the date it was added (even though I'm sure it was a genuine mistake) seemed to have had (or will soon have) the effect of accelerating it falling off the template, which seems a bit unfair. Carcharoth 12:50, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Please ignore the above. P. F. Lai has acknowledged and corrected the mistake. Carcharoth 13:11, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Response

My script is in the process of correcting this by replacing "tl" with "tlu" so the links work properly. PoccilScript 01:47, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Test

The "it" is wholly unnecessary. It basically reminds people that we're referring to the subject of the sentence (the test), which was already established three words earlier. We can lose that comma as well. -- Steel 20:09, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I ran this past a few (British) people who know more about these kind of things than I do and they said that both versions (with and without the it) are acceptable. If it's incorrect in American English without the it then it's probably best to leave it in, considering British English doesn't seem to mind which is used. -- Steel 23:31, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Vandalism

I've given them one last warning, since that appears to be standard practice. At this rate, though, they'll be the first person I've ever had to block in my nearly three years of being a sysop at various wikis. It really puzzles me that they'd make many productive edits at Wikipedia yet treat Meta the way they do. Anyways, thanks for keeping an eye on things, and I'll be checking back on them periodically. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 07:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Language template

I am disappointed that once again Raul has cut the Language template at Template:Wikipedialang which you had lengthened to the satisfaction of a number of other language Wiki users. I cannot understand his constant vendetta. The template has already been massively reduced. Why do key up and coming non-Western languages have to be excluded? Tfine80 19:56, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hi, you recently reverted my improvements on WP:IAR. These are not major changes; they are simply explanations and clarifications. Please talk to me if you have any issues with the minor useful additions I am making, and I will accommodate it into the article. Also, please allow me more time before reverting; it is very distributive in my contributions. Reply back on this talk page and I will respond promptly. Thank you.

Hi, it's me again. If you were to create an account, you could have a Sandbox where you could work on some drafts of the article and present this on the Wikipedia_talk:Ignore_all_rules. By working in your own sandbox, nobody would disturb you during your edits and you can make interesting and perhaps innovative changes which could possibly be disruptive if carried out on the actual article. Heligoland 14:56, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I believe you are being far too cautious. If you allow me the time to work, you will find that I have done nothing disruptive. Please revert the article back. Please also read Talk.
The decision is now out of my hands. It's up to David, what with him being an admin and all. My only concern is that users visiting WP:IAR might arrive to find an article which is in the middle of your facelift process. As I've said, I'm most satisfied that your not vandalising and what I'm about to say clearly isn't your intention, but without discussing your changes on the talk page, you run the risk of posting material which is not accurate and which could mislead anybody reading it. As something like WP:IAR is an important rule and guideline for Wikipedia, any changes need to be agreed upon and any future versions of the page need to be proof read before going live. Best Wishes Heligoland 15:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

"your facelift process."

"Without discussing your changes on the talk page, you run the risk of posting material which is not accurate and which could mislead anybody reading it."

  • This is a risk of the entire Wikipedia project, but I'm sure you, being an admin and all, could understand that.

"any changes need to be agreed upon"

  • Of course, though the additions I am making are not changing the policy, and are therefore not violating anything.

"and any future versions of the page need to be proof read before going live"

  • This is a false statement. Users have improve and made changes without having every single edit discussed. Check the history to see for yourself, please.

Again, you are being far too cautious, and I hope I hear from you quickly. Thank you again.

Your changes to the page (which is not an "article") are far from minor. Several of your ideas (adding the word "discourage," placing the entire policy in a "nutshell" box, significantly expanding the page's length) have been rejected by the community. You also have failed to follow our style guide. (In particular, some of your headings were incorrectly formatted.)
As I advised (and the page itself advises), please propose these revisions on the talk page before proceeding.
As Heligoland noted, it generally isn't a good idea to experiment on active pages (by saving changes and seeing what requires "fixing"). Please use the "Show preview" button (and attempt to arrive at a working version) before pressing the "Save page" button. Heligoland also was correct in stating that a sandbox would be useful in this situation. You could experiment to your heart's content and present the results to the community when you're ready. If you'd like, I'd be happy to create a sandbox for you.
Heligoland was incorrect in implying that administrators (including me) possess the authority to overrule the editorial decisions made by other editors. My reversion of the page (performed without the special "rollback" function afforded to sysops) carried no more weight than Heligoland's. It was not an administrative act, but it did reflect my knowledge of the community and its procedures.
Your latest message on my talk page (posted as I was typing the above) seems to be based upon the mistaken impression that Heligoland's most recent reply was written by me. You also incorrectly claimed that you "are not changing the policy." In fact, you added a word ("discourage") that alters the policy's meaning in a manner rejected by the community.
I disagree with your implication that you've been treated discourteously. Heligoland has politely attempted to assist you (as I'm doing now).
On an semi-related note, please sign your posts on talk pages. Please also be more patient before declaring that a "mistake" has been made and falsely implying that a dispute has been mutually resolved. It took a while for me to type this reply. Thank you. —David Levy 15:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Your changes to the page (which is not an "article") are far from minor. Several of your ideas (adding the word "discourage," placing the entire policy in a "nutshell" box, significantly expanding the page's length) have been rejected by the community. You also have failed to follow our style guide. (In particular, some of your headings were incorrectly formatted.)
As I advised (and the page itself advises), please propose these revisions on the talk page before proceeding.
As Heligoland noted, it generally isn't a good idea to experiment on active pages (by saving changes and seeing what requires "fixing"). Please use the "Show preview" button (and attempt to arrive at a working version) before pressing the "Save page" button. Heligoland also was correct in stating that a sandbox would be useful in this situation. You could experiment to your heart's content and present the results to the community when you're ready. If you'd like, I'd be happy to create a sandbox for you.
Heligoland was incorrect in implying that administrators (including me) possess the authority to overrule the editorial decisions made by other editors. My reversion of the page (performed without the special "rollback" function afforded to sysops) carried no more weight than Heligoland's. It was not an administrative act, but it did reflect my knowledge of the community and its procedures.
Your latest message on my talk page (posted as I was typing the above) seems to be based upon the mistaken impression that Heligoland's most recent reply was written by me. You also incorrectly claimed that you "are not changing the policy." In fact, you added a word ("discourage") that alters the policy's meaning in a manner rejected by the community.
I disagree with your implication that you've been treated discourteously. Heligoland has politely attempted to assist you (as I'm doing now).
On an semi-related note, please sign your posts on talk pages. Please also be more patient before declaring that a "mistake" has been made and falsely implying that a dispute has been mutually resolved. It took a while for me to type this reply. Thank you. —David Levy 15:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi again. It would be nice if I know what to call you. I'm Nick, by the way. Just a couple of notes to add to this before I disappear for a little bite to eat. I'm not an administrator but I don't feel comfortable reverting an edit made by an administrator. David has been approved by the Wikipedia community, we believe David to have the knowledge and attitude to maintain Wikipedia and for him to make such decisions is, in my opinion, more legitimate than any edits made by myself, someone who has been approved by nobody. I know that I could, if I so choose, revert any of the edits made by any of the administrators today to the article, but I would not feel comfortable with this and I will now retire from this discussion totally. I would say, in a parting note, that although you aren't changing policy, the wording on pages can be ambigious and I, as a Scottish editor may interpret something differently to an English, American, Canadian or Australian editor, due to variances in the English language. That's why it's important, in my opinion, that edits to important rules and guidelines are agreed in advance by the community here, where opinion can be solicited from the wider community and where any ambiguity can be spotted in advance and worked out.

I don't feel I am being too cautious, WP:IAR is an important rule and I feel that any edits to the page need to be double checked before the page goes live. Anyway, must dash. Best Wishes Heligoland 16:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your opinions. I also thank you for acknowledging that I am not changing policy, but there will always be those that disagree. "The wording on pages [is] ambigious" and that is more reason for me to improve it, and if others disgree with certain words I retrieve directly from Jimbo and official policies themselves, they can always talk with me. I am very open, and am glad to see that others have contribute without the difficulty that I am having to deal with.
I am still waiting for David to make a reply (which is talking forever), and I could be working on WP:IAR as we speak. Well, Have fun eating!128.226.160.124 17:07, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello, Problems you have:

"(adding the word "discourage," "You also incorrectly claimed that you "are not changing the policy." In fact, you added a word ("discourage")..."

  • Please read: Wikipedia:Simplified_Ruleset
  • It states, "Ignore all rules - if the rules discourage you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia's quality, ignore them."
  • Therefore, it is not a "claim," it is a reality.

"...that alters the policy's meaning in a manner rejected by the community."

  • You see, now this is a claim-- a false claim.

"...have been rejected by the community."

  • User:xaosflux was helping; he/she did not reject it nor have any other besides yourself.

"(In particular, some of your headings were incorrectly formatted.)"

& DO Not Bite.

  • Also, please give me the specifics you are talking about.

"You also have failed to follow our style guide."

  • Failed is a harsh word. Please read WP:Civility & WP: Etiquette.

"As I advised (and the page itself advises), please propose these revisions on the talk page before proceeding."

  • The page does not advise that.

"Please use the "Show preview" button (and attempt to arrive at a working version) before pressing the "Save page" button."

  • That sounds like a solid idea. Will do.

"You could experiment to your heart's content"

  • I am not "experimenting;" this is how I work and if you have an issue with that, then it is your own fault, and I am sad that you cannot understand and respect how other people, who are not you, contribute to Wikipedia. As I had stated, I will use the "Show preview" button next time, but that doesn't mean you had to revert it again.

"Heligoland was incorrect in implying that administrators (including me) possess the authority to overrule the editorial decisions made by other editors."

  • Of course not, admins are equal to any other users on Wikipedia, no worse, no better.

"Please also be more patient before declaring that a "mistake" has been made and falsely implying that a dispute has been mutually resolved"

  • Have not stated a "mistake." It was "appears to have been a mistake," as he can properly see from the history page.

That should be a detailed reply to yours. Hopefully, it will bring a bit of reason and clarification to you. 128.226.160.124 16:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC) Look! I signed. But will not sign everything as it is not needed, nor does it violate any policies.


Quick reply before reading what you stated. Please feel free to write and edit anything on the WP:IAR! Thank you very much!

Replied on my user talk. See.

Please also go to the Wikipedia_talk:Ignore_all_rules where I have started a topic for people who ave problems with the improvements.

[edit] Adding "Contents" to Main Page

Hi, David. Does anything else need to happen before Wikipedia:Contents can be added to the Main Page? Rfrisbietalk 03:57, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured articles on main page

Can you tell me how I can view the article on the main page. I want to write a featured article. Well, Can administrators only write the featured articles on the main page. Sushant gupta 14:45, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] umm

I was saying "hello" to someone I know. I understand this is still permitted; do correct me if I am in error. — Dan | talk 03:13, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Because I know the person. I can instruct him as necessary and direct him to the relevant tutorial pages if need be. The labelling of my comment with the "unsigned" template was sanctimonious and unnecessary. Though I daren't go as far as to ask that you assume good faith, I would appreciate some degree of decency in questioning or reversing my actions. Good grief. — Dan | talk
In response to No. 1, I thought I had done that above, in particular in the part which read "I can instruct him as necessary and direct him to the relevant tutorial pages if need be." If not, here goes again: I can instruct him as necessary and direct him to the relevant tutorial pages if need be.
With regard to No. 2, perhaps you might have asked me what I was doing. I've been around a while; I should hope it's not generally feared that I might turn vandal at any moment, unless my every action not be scrutinized carefully. I apologize, humbly etc., for having 'left you scratching your head', though I maintain that a simple note, giving me the opportunity to clarify, would have been more in order.
I am curious, in any case, how your piercing gaze attenuated itself to this particular talk page. This user has done nothing of significance. There's no reason to think I would pick a new user out of the blue to confuse and harass. I am, as you seem to have been before, thoroughly mystified at your outraged response to my entirely insignificant action. — Dan | talk 05:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I wasn't really concerned about how anyone would know why I'd done it, as I did not expect in the least that anyone would care. I removed the welcome message because it treats the user as a fourth-grader, what with patronizing diction and a photograph of a cupcake. I did not wish my friend, an intelligent adult, to be put off by this impression of Wikipedia. The edit summary is apparently an automatic thing; in fact I left the edit summary box blank.
Also, I don't know if you meant to suggest it, but by no means do I deserve the assumption of good faith more than anybody else simply because of who I am. I should hope you treat everyone else with more dignity than you did me. — Dan | talk 05:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I have little regard for the "general rule" and doing what's "proper" when the reasons for doing such are not relevant to the situation; nor do I care about this issue enough to continue arguing about it. I beg pardon for having wasted your time. — Dan | talk 06:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This page is 293 kilobytes long.

I'm not sure what problem you're trying to solve here. If I create a redirect, what is the point in calling deliberate attention to the fact that I was too lazy to type an edit summary explaining it? As for vandalism, if one vandal sees another vandal's edit summary and already knows that it's automatic, then the he'll probably type something uninformative to prevent it from taking effect. Furthermore there are vandalism reversion bots that depend on the edit summaries as previously written, for hints when looking for stuff to revert. Additionally the extra byte clutter results in fewer spaces being available for the informative text. The default wasn't broken, so I really have no idea why you would change it. —freak(talk) 08:33, Nov. 17, 2006 (UTC)

All vandalism is "deliberate", unless it's accidental. However, some vandalisms are more serious than others. For example, replacing a page with "FUCKKKKKK" is more serious than adding '''Bold text''' at the bottom. Eventually there will be more complex autosummaries, but they will be useless if anybody watching recent changes (which includes a non-trivial portion of vandals) is constantly reminded to circumvent them. —freak(talk) 08:49, Nov. 17, 2006 (UTC)
Because they're not looking at their own edits. I thought I'd explained that. —freak(talk) 09:05, Nov. 17, 2006 (UTC)
Actually it was done 4 days ago [1]. I can see your concern about lack of administrator awareness, however. Assuming it were feasible to immediately inform all administrators of every software change, would you consider it a bad thing for there awareness to remain a step ahead of vandals' awareness (even if only for a short while, after which everyone will have figured it out). I would strongly consider asking the developers to add an "admin-sitenotice" or somesuch, if it helps keep the WP:BEANS from being spilled everytime a clever, ground-breaking new feature is added. —freak(talk) 09:41, Nov. 17, 2006 (UTC)

The quality of your arguments has nothing to do with my biological need for sleep. That aside, if our goal is awareness, please examine my changes to the following pages and tell me if you see them as a suitable alternative to polluting the individual edit comments:

P.S. You have not archived your talk page in 14 months. —freak(talk) 00:30, Nov. 18, 2006 (UTC)

Alas, I've been reverted [2]. Assuming we can use a less verbose message on that page (and use the past-tense edit summaries), would that be an acceptable compromise, or would I be giving an inch to lose a mile? —freak(talk) 00:57, Nov. 18, 2006 (UTC)

Maybe I'm being too analytical, but I think if I was a new user, "page was blanked" is an observation I would make when restoring its content (reverting the blanking) rather than when actually blanking it. I think "blanked the page" would be better. —freak(talk) 01:16, Nov. 18, 2006 (UTC)

As for the pseudo-section link, if the MediaWiki:Histlegend refers specifically to the symbol used, a link shouldn't be necessary. Also, please be aware that numerical character entity references will not be properly unicodified in edit summaries, so it would be necessary to use a literal arrow, or whatever symbol is being used. —freak(talk) 01:26, Nov. 18, 2006 (UTC)

I assume then, that you intend to use the WP:AES shortcut for just that purpose. Better do some brainstorming and make sure there's not anything else it might stand for, and probably better protect the redirect as well. —freak(talk) 01:39, Nov. 18, 2006 (UTC)

[3] look okay? Hopefully we are done dealing with this issue now. —freak(talk) 01:56, Nov. 18, 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

Thanks for taking care of the troll vandalizing our user pages. They really are a pain in a Wikipedian's side. (Iuio 06:24, 18 November 2006 (UTC))

Did you hear? The troll has finally ben blocked. Let's hope he does not vandalize again. (Iuio 06:34, 18 November 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Consensus on Main Page links

I forgot all about this thread. I concur with the proposal to remove the searching link and add the contents link.

Talk:Main Page/Archive 82#Proposal: add one or more of these links to the main page

I guess all that's left is for the change to be made. Will you do that please?  The Transhumanist   03:45, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Done.  :-) —David Levy 04:32, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks!  The Transhumanist   04:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Considering bugzilla request for "Complete list" feature

Hi. Thanks again for your involvement in putting "Complete list" at the bottom of the interwikis on the English Main Page. I'm considering putting in a bugzilla request for a feature to allow something like that to be easily done on any page. See meta:Meta:Babel "# 19 Suggestion re handling long interwiki (interlanguage) lists". What do you think? --Coppertwig 13:22, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent Changes...

...made to KYW-TV, WABC-TV, WCBS-TV, WNBC-TV, WNYW, and WWOR-TV need to be explained further. Until then, I've reverting these articles back to their previous versions. Rollosmokes 18:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

This is getting ridiculous. First, there's A Man in Black with his "anti-image gallery" crusade...now this. Everyone who writes for a living KNOWS that single-digit numbers are written as WORDS, not as numbers. And, if Wikipedia is supposed to be an "online encyclopedia", then perhaps we should practice the same stylistic protocol as printed encyclopedias. Newspapers write single-digits numerically to save precious space. Encylopedias are written differently. So, to say that "channel nine" and "Nine Broadcast Plaza" is NOT CORRECT is a load of crap, regardless of what the Manual of Style says. Rollosmokes 06:33, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
This is what happens when you have a kid in charge. Are you a professional writer? Probably not. Still, this nitpicking is sickening. Wikipedia is coming very close to that "No-Fun Zone" for me, as those of us who wish to make professional contributions are being stymied by those who whish to enforce their silly doctrines. Rollosmokes 16:40, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

How are my comments "uncivil"? I didn't use profanity or any other kind of threatening language. Nor do I practice WP:OWN, as you falsely claim. I am all about accuracy and professionalism. And, that goes for my opinion on how single-digit numbers should be written.

As we did with the whole "UPN vs. United Paramount Network" thing several months back, I guess we'll agree to disagree.

And, one more thing: read the Chicago Manual of Style. Then see if Wikipedia (and you) are right after all. Rollosmokes 06:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, perhaps Wikipedia should follow the Chicago Manual or some other OFFICIAL style guide, rather than attempt to make up its own unilaterally. I am a semi-professional writer, my wife is a professional writer, we have friends who write for a living...and all agree with me on the single-digit number thing. And, speaking of which, it wasn't a problem initially when I introduced this. Only now is it a problem, and for you.
I offer this quote, from the Penguin Handbook, second edition:
In formal writing spell out any number than can be expressed in one or two words, as well as any number, regardless of length, at the beginning of a sentence. Also, hyphenate two-word numbers from twenty-one to ninety-nine.
In scentific reports and some business writing that requires the frequent use of numbers, using numerals more often is appropriate. Most styles do not write out words in year, a date, an address, a page number, the time of day, decimals, sums of money, phone numbers, rates of speed, or the scene and act of a play. Use numerals instead.
MLA, Chicago Style, and APA ALL utilize this format, which I adhere to completely. There is some wiggle room, but generally we stick to it.
Next...I am at least ten years older than you are. That, my friend, makes you a kid as far as I'm concerned. And, in this case, I can't take you seriously because you have much to experience. You probably just got out of high school, whereas I already have been down the college road on which you're currently travelling, and I learned from that experience. I am a completely different writer now than I was when I was your age. Some advice -- get some experience in the real world first before wholly susbscribing to a certain philosophy, technical or otherwise.
Lastly, I don't have to answer your trivial Encyclopedia Brittanica/Chanel No. 5/1-Naphthylamine comments because they're moot as far as this issue goes. Rollosmokes 08:28, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Automatic edit summaries

Hi there; I have come to your page because the edit summary of the automatic edit page lists you as first contributor. If this is not so, please tell me and I'll go away. There are now several questions posted on the talk-page of this article, several, although not all, from me. Is it possible to get some answers to them?--Anthony.bradbury 00:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summaries

Hi there; OK, thanks, I'll chase Andrew up.--Anthony.bradbury 01:25, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My Reverts to WNBC

I did not realize I was removing valid edits when I reverted others, and that is my fault. Sorry about that to you and everyone else in the Wikipedia community. aido2002 04:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I know, I just felt like I should say something.aido2002 04:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
No problem! aido2002 04:55, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Asher

Most of our back-and-forth with Asher is archived to User talk:Asher Heimermann/ArchiveA; we've been cutting him a huge amount of slack for several days now. I like the kid, he's like an eager puppy who honestly wants to help out. Thanks for posting that note to his page; I hope he takes it to heart. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 04:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Funny thing is that I asked for him to be blocked on AIV twice, and was told to leave him alone - he was just a kid. So a few minutes after his last warning he's back to welcoming new users - so much for being co-operative. Earlier today, I joined Wikipedia:WikiProject Fire Service to do something contructive instead of just fighting vandals. So he must be stalking me, since shortly after he joined also, if he isn't banned, I'm quitting the WikiProject, since I don't want to be near him - it will be just too frustrating. --ArmadilloFromHell 05:00, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I did pull him from AIV once, but only for procedural reasons -- at that point in time, he hadn't received the standard warning templates that would justify a block. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 05:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

There was another AIV I posted at some point, and it was processed and rejected on the basis that he was just a kid. I think in months of editing, this is only the second time I've AIVed someone twice. --ArmadilloFromHell 05:12, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I didn't know about the other one. And, seriously, I agonized about removing that entry from AIV. But with no test3 or test4 warnings on his page, no admin would have blocked him at that point in time. If a block was rejected another time because "he's just a kid", that's a bogus reason. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 05:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] no reply needed (please)

Be aware that I reverted back to the format we had previously agreed upon, even though "rv" directly above your edit looks as if I was directly contradicting you. Of course if the arrows do look too similar at that font-size, any other symbol would be fine by me, just nothing obnoxiously long. —freak(talk) 05:36, Nov. 30, 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template Magic

[removed example]

Of course these are simple examples for what I want to do, but the basic idea is there. There are templates that are called from about 130 pages some of which are lists of information about the other 125 pages. The data passed to the four templates is basically the same (well 3 of the templates use subsets of the data used in the 4th template). It would be nice to have one place to edit all this data. I would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction for documentation (if you know of something that could help solve this problem. Thx in adv --Trödel 22:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

FYI, User talk:Ligulem was able to provide me with a potential solution --Trödel 17:19, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good work

Blocking vandals is good. But, do you ever unblock them? The mission 16:23, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] WNBC Article

It wasn't a personal attack, I was saying I think that the idea that this is all that is going on there is stupid. We have discussed it, none of us changed our minds, so I guess this goes on until someone stops caring. aido2002 16:10, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WNBC Images

Re-uploading them was not "entirely inappropriate." AManinBlack deleted them, and said in the deletion log that he did so because they were orphaned. Because they should not have been, and were orphaned by him, re-uploading and restoring them to the page was the right course of action to take. aido2002 00:38, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I do acknowledge that I am not familiar with the fair use policy, so feel free to add the info. The copyrights are held by NBC Universal. aido2002 03:29, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Deleting the image was by no means the correct course of action to take, the only real issue was the lack of attribution, which you could have added. aido2002 04:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
We talked about this. the rationale is that they help the article, they illustrate what we say, and are vital. aido2002
They are vital for the same reason pictures are vital in a history textbook. Go after the original uploader about the fair use rationale thing, I am the wrong person to talk to for it. amaninblack should not have deleted the images, he orphaned them, and several people were against it. He did not have a legitimate reason to, I hope you can agree with me on this. aido2002 23:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Spell Check

Ok, I wikk make sure I don's edit such pages. Srry bout that, but when you are doing something boring and repetitive, it is pretty hard to notice such changes but, I wikk keep an eye out


Thanx

symode09 03:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiversity/logo

Yes, but that is not the greatest issue; the problem is that the gray on the cupola has contrast issues with the blue of the world. As the Earth's blue gets darker, the gray gets lighter, and there is a point at which the too colors blur into each other, which I personally don't like. Titoxd(?!?) 19:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please help

Hi, I am trying to give Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism a makeover. I would apprecaite your help as I hope this format will be the standard for wikiproject pages. The main problem I have right now is the little "Contents" template that apears and is distrupting the clean cut look, it doesnt apear on the main page. I would also apprecaite some general tips. Thanks. FrummerThanThou 22:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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