Talk:Dave Kelly (artist)

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Contents 1 Was a stub 2 Dave Kelly 3 Big Ones 4 Bogus Links and Entries 5 Webcomic Stew 6 Citation needed 7 Wikipedia:Notability (people) failure

[edit] Was a stub

This is totaly a stub. I will get back to it soon. --KSnortum 08:18, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

I got back to it. Some one took the stub cat off, so I guess it's officially "not a stub".

[edit] Dave Kelly

He is a neat guy. I wish people would stop trying to say he is a furry. The people who say this are jerks. Dave Kelly is one of my biggest heroes.

I like him too; that's why I started the article. I didn't know being a "furry" was a bad thing. I know he hated the term. I wish he'd put back the Living in Graytown archives. --KSnortum 20:14, 11 March 2006 (UTC) (edit) The archives are back up, but only for subscribers to Keenspot. --KSnortum 03:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Likewise. That comic rocked, especially towards the end. GreenReaper 06:43, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Big Ones

Why isnt the big ones comic mentioned here (yet?) Thats some dave kelly history hah :)

Why not add it? Be bold! --KSnortum 01:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bogus Links and Entries

The following link appear to be bogus and have been removed.

• Dave Kelly in a interview with Swedish organisation Piratbyrån
• Proof that Shmorky likes Richard Scarry's traffic jams

The following statements have been removed:

He enjoys Richard Scarry's pictures of traffic jams.

The March 06 2006 Flash Tub on Something Awful seems to indicate that Dave Kelly hates Wikipedia, specifically the Dave Kelly entry.

Those are probably legit, but not notable at any rate. Twinxor t 23:25, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

They're back in, but at this point, I'm not sure that many people care about this article. Maybe Dave is right and we take ourselves too seriously. --KSnortum 20:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Webcomic Stew

My understanding is that external links should be put into the body of the article as much as possible. The External Link "Webcomic Stew" seems to be an example of a web comic parody (PVP). I think it should be put into the body text, or at least the title changed to "PVP Parody" --KSnortum 21:22, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citation needed

I have to admit I feel very odd about this article. It was started because someone requested it. I did the best I could. It's gotten a lot more controvertial than I ever thought it would be. It seems ti be unsupported by Kelly himself and most of his current fans. Half the people are making silly, purposefully stupid edits (in an effort to discredit it, I believe); the other half are critisizing the article's content. I'm getting to the point where I don't care any more; whatever "you guys" think is fine -- whoever "you guys" are.

I wrote the line comparing Kelly to that of Basil Wolverton, John Kricfalusi and Robert Crumb which know bears a "citation" tag. There is no citation. I wrote it. It's my opinion. I "cited" a piece of Kelly's work for the Wolverton influence, which I think is obvious. The Kricfalusi and Crumb comparisons come from private conversations with Kelly about his influences back when he was talking to me. If you don't like the line, be bold and remove it. I don't care any more.

At least I sign my name and have a user page. If you have an opionion about what I've just said, go post to it.

--KSnortum 01:01, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Jeez, now the Lucky Strike parody says it needs citation. It originally did, but got edited out!

Kelly stated on the Something Awful forums that "there is no real Shmorky, I just like the idea. It did fool some people and that was kind of cool." He and Josh "Colorfinger" Jones (who is responsible for many of the voices and background music at Something Awful's Flash Tub) created the fake Lucky Strike commercial found on the Shmorky homepage.

The Something Awful forums are not public. If you want to pay to get on them and verify this, fine. Otherwise, leave it or remove it; I don't care. No one's being consistent with the {{fact}} tab anyway.

--KSnortum 01:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Just noticed this on the front page about the band Rush:

Since the release of their self-titled debut album in 1974 the band has become known for their instrumental virtuosity, complex compositions and erudite lyrics.

Where's the citation on that? --KSnortum 23:31, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

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Please vote or make your opinion known below about removing the sections with the ^{[citation needed]} tag. Remove the tag or the sections once a concensus is found. There will never be citations for them. --KSnortum 23:28, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Wikipedia:Notability (people) failure

This article and the subject fail to meet Wikipedia:Notability_(people): The person has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person.

• No one has written about Shmorky

The person made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field.

• No one mentions shmorky animations they are not popular like Ren & Stimpy or Plimptoons

Political figures holding or who have held international, national or statewide/provincewide office, and members and former members of a national, state or provincial legislature.

• No

Major local political figures who receive (or received) significant press coverage.5 Just being an elected local official does not guarantee notability.

• No

Widely recognized entertainment personalities and opinion makers (e.g., - Hollywood Walk of Fame)

• No

Sportspeople/athletes/competitors who have played in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, or at the highest level in mainly amateur sports or

• No

Notable actors and television personalities who have appeared in well-known films or television productions. Notability can be determined by:

• No

Published authors, editors and photographers who received multiple independent reviews of or awards for their work

• No

Painters, sculptors, architects, engineers, and other professionals whose work is widely recognized (for better or worse) and who are likely to become a part of the enduring historical record of that field

• This is the only thing Shmorky is notable of, neither recognized or historically relevant yet.

Persons achieving renown or notoriety for their involvement in newsworthy events, such as by being assassinated.

• No

Professor Test?

• No

Verifiability

• Yes (notable? no)

Expandability

• Probably

100 year test?

• No

Biography

• No

Search Engine Test

• No

So Shmorky is verifiable and is an animator who hasn't produced any works that are notable? --Quirex 19:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)