Talk:Darwen

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[edit] Dwrgwyn

There is way too much about a possible Celtic origin of the name in this article: it even lists it in the first sentence in heavy type as if it is still used. I am going to trim a lot of this down into one mention. But I can't find any references to a lot of this. In fact, a Google search produces two groups of hits on this word: one is an address in Bath; and the other is a host of mentions of the word in other related Wikipedia articles, all of which treat the word as if it's currently used.

I take it there has been some local project or coverage. So if whoever added all this could point to some references, that would be lovely. Otherwise I am considering removing the word from all the articles except possibly River Darwen.

There's an awful lot of Lancashire stubs, incidentally; where are all the Lancastrians on Wikipedia?

Telsa (talk) 08:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I have now scaled back the number of mentions of this derivation. A (very) cursory web search about this found only a webpage for the local archaeological society, which in turn does not cite any sources. It all sounds plausible, but if it's true, why does only the one page say it? So I have added the "cite needed" template. I have also added one for the "local people say Darren". (I accept personally that this one is true, knowing people from the area, but we need a verifiable source. )

I am having trouble finding a good population estimate, due to boundary changes and lumping in with Blackburn.

Telsa (talk) 11:31, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Life "on the edge"

Hi User:Darrener. The edits I made are not personal towards you. The intro of an article should be kept as concise as possible, and I was trying to keep it to the bare minimum of content.

If you look at my edit summary in the page history, what I was saying was that the wording "Darwen is on the edge..." is precisely right - it lies across and over the border itself, or the edge. There are bits of the town on the moors, and some bits not - that's precisely what it says already. Just like Todmorden lies on the edge of the historical borders of Yorkshire (and indeed over on the other side too!).

Fear not - I'm extremely familiar with the area too and I want to see accuracy prevail, but not at the expense of keeping the introduction to the point. If any extra detail is required, it's best putting it later in the article body.

Feel free to discuss the changes here - we dont' use the articles themselves for discussions so that they can be easily read at all times.

Hope that explains things somewhat, Aquilina 21:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

"Darwen is a small market town in Lancashire, which extends onto the West Pennine Moors." ... does that work for everybody?

And could one of you excellent folk fact-check my recent edits to A666 road please? I'm not nearby. User:Pedant 23:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coat of Arms

Does anyone know the meaning of the Motto on the Coat of Arms? User:Pedant 03:13, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

without work, nothing.

Or Nothing, without work.

There has never been any vote in Darwen as to it's removal from Lancashire.

In the eyes of all Darreners, its still the borough of Darwen in the County of Lancashire.

However, it is now part of Blackburn with Darwen. Therefore, the article should reflect this.

Theelf29 (talk) 12:42, 29 August 2006 (BST)