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Cleaner Page

I think this talk page should really be cleaned up. There's a lot of threads here that no one has added to in years and/or no longer have relevance. Thoughts? Nicolasdz 08:23, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Interview

I'm going for an interview with an Dartmouth alum tomorrow. Any tips? What kind of good things or interesting stuff should I say about Dartmouth?

I'm a Dartmouth student (class of 2008), feel free to e-mail me (go to my user page and 'Email this user') with any questions about interviews, general Dartmouth stuffs, etc. However, the talk page on Wikipedia here is not the forum to ask. I reverted the garbage that other users have put on here in reply (and arguably, in vandalism). --└Smith120bh/TALK ┐ 03:53, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Peer review

I'd like to get this article cleaned up to FA status.--AaronS 01:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Conservative student body

Dartmouth's student body isn't exactly liberal, but they're no Bob Jones U. Mostly, they gets a bad rep from things like the Dartmouth Review and Dinesh D'Sousa.



Actually, they are slightly left of center, which puts them firmly in camp of Churchill and Reagan compared to the Trotskies and Lenins of Brown and Yale (and the Gorbachevs of Harvard!).

This is absurd - the student body, like any northeastern liberal arts school, is painfully liberally biased. The only difference is that Dartmouth as a vocal and nearly violent conservative minority and a desire throughout by most to be seen as "moderate." The idea that the student body is "conservative" or "slightly left of center" is simply a misrepresentation. This place would make the most tried and true liberals proud - it's just perhaps a little more tolerant of conservatism than somewhere else might be due to certain undercurrents of the campus.


I am a current Dartmouth student, and I recently completed a survey of Dartmouth undergraduates on their political/economic and social ideologies. 33% of Dartmouth undergrads are political/economic conservatives, while 25% are social conservatives. And the survey met all the standards of accuracy and impartiality, as it was for a statistics course (if hadn't met the standard, I would have failed). - '09

Religious affiliation

How about discussion of religious affiliation?

What religious affiliation? Dartmouth doesn't have one now, but do you mean the religious affiliations of the college founder?
Oh, I was just aware that at one time it had a religious affiliation because some famous person (whose name escapes me at the moment) jokingly blamed his dismissal from the university on his skipping mandatory religious services. Kent Wang 22:28, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)
lots of colleges without religious affiliations used to have mandatory chapel. Doops 12:56, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
When did it officially stop being Congregational? [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 00:33, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC) Hmmm... the 1911 Britannica says "It is Congregational in its affiliations, but is actually non-sectarian." Whatever that means. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 00:35, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Dartmouth certainly predates the existence of the organization called the Congregational church; but when it was founded, it was certainly part and parcel of the whole New England puritan establishment, which over the course of time became the Congregational Church (today merged in the UCC). So at no time was it anything like the various colleges founded in the 19th century by various organized churches and run by them — but it was certainly de facto Puritan; and then Congregationalist; and then, gradually, nothing at all. I doubt that we could pick any one date. In some sense, it never had a formal affiliation with the Congregational church (and I doubt whether it ever had any religious test for entry, even in the early theocratic days); in another sense, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that, to this day, a Congregationalist minister is always hired to run the college chapel, for the sake of tradition. Doops 05:45, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Photo

This page needs a decent picture -- the green, the library, Dartmouth Hall. –– wwoods 08:19, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Well, do you have any? Best solution to otherwise-complicated copyright and rights issues is for a contributor takes the photo him- or herself. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 12:11, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I added a photo of the Baker library on 18 June 2004 after this request was made. -Redjar 12:58, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

If I get around to joining or anything, there are much better photos of Baker than on a slightly cloudy day to attach to the article.

Please leave the current picture. It's just as I remember Baker. BrianGCrawfordMA 23:53, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

BuzzFlood

The BuzzFlood webpage is a stunningly creative site. And a boon to Dartmouth (www.buzzflood.org). Lots of Dartmout related news.


Dartmouth Night

"In 1904, the Earl of Dartmouth his companion, visited the campus on Dartmouth Night with the young Winston Churchill, and marched around the Green with the students."

Which Earl--the then-Earl, or the future 7th Earl?
—wwoods 00
27, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Now it says
"In 1904, the Earl of Dartmouth visited the campus on Dartmouth Night with New Hampshire legislator Winston Churchill and marched around the Green with the students."
This needs clarification or correction. Is that the Winston Churchill, or a NH guy?
—wwoods 20
57, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)


--I think it's clear. "The Earl" might be presumed to refer to the Earl at the time, since there have been Earls since 1711. Incidentally, it was William Heneage Legge, the 6th Earl. --The point of noting that Churchill was a New Hampshire (USA) legislator is to clarify that he was not "the" Churchill.

Animal House

I don't want to do it right now, in the heat of the recent flap, and am hardly the best person to do it in any case.

But at some point somebody really ought to add something to this article noting that the 1978 motion picture Animal House credits Chris Miller, Dartmouth '62, as a screenwriter. The movie was adapted from a series of stories he contributed to the National Lampoon which concerned an outlaw fraternity. Miller has said that the stories were very loosely based on his experiences in Alpha Delta Phi. Any discussion of this should, of course, be properly NPOVed and accompanied by statements that I have not bothered to locate but which I am sure exist, in which the Dartmouth fraternity system doubtless says that it is not like that now and was not really like that then... [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 20:51, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Indeed, it is surprising to me that none of the Dartmouth folks wrote an article about the background and history of Dartmouth "Greek" life in general. It seems that fraternities are more important at Dartmouth than at other Ivy League schools; I wonder why? Were there other-than-social-factors? A reluctance of Dartmouth administration to build dormitories? A shortage of rental housing in this relatively small town? Apparently in 1999 or thereabouts there was very serious talk by the Dartmouth administration of abolishing single-sex living groups; I can't seem to find out exactly what the upshot was. Maybe we have an article on fraternities and sororities in general that touches on this. Do I understand correctly that there is a Dartmouth tradition that fraternity parties are open to all? Does this mean that any old stranger (e.g. F. Scott Fitzgerald) can just wander in and drink free booze? This all seems like an interesting, controversial, and legitimate topic that is more-or-less specific to Dartmouth. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 12:16, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Regarding parties being open... As a resident of the area, it's been my experience that most of the Fraternity parties are quite open, and they expect at a lot of students that aren't fraternity members to join in the fun. Heck, I'm been to a few parties at Dartmouth Frats, and I've never been a student, and am starting to look well older than your average student as well. Kaszeta 12:41, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I thought they were only open part of the year. I've been to Dartmouth a few times, and one time in particular I seem to remember the frats being closed to non-members, the reason given being related to the time of the year. Then again, that might have been because there weren't supposed to actually be frat parties at that time of the year. In any case, since we aren't supposed to be doing original research, I'm not sure how being a Dartmouth student is going to help you write any of this. Anything added should be documented in other sources first anyway. anthony (see warning) 12:52, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)


The parties are definitely open. There are some houses that are more exclusive than others, but if you have any idea what you're doing, you can waltz into a house any night of the week and get free booze. If there's an actual party, far more often than not it'll be entirely open. Sometimes they'll ask for Dartmouth IDs, but a lot of the time there's not even anyone at the door. As a matter of what they SAY, then they probably wouldn't allow just anyone in; but as a matter of practice, people turn a blind eye to most of it, if not welcome them. It adds a certain flair to the night to have a forty year old (alum or not) join in a game of beer pong.
The only time frats are "closed" are really only when they have meetings. Otherwise they really only screen who comes in when they're having an invite-only "tails" (cocktails) night.--Osprey39 09:18, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Merge?

Please, can some "wired" DC fellow figure out how to merge those articles, like the two swimming ones that are now cleaned up, and how to capitalize the title "C" in college on one of them? Thanks.Sfahey 20:59, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Graduates/Attendees

No particular order... just off the top of my head here. Daniel Webster Nelson Rockefeller Jack Ryan (Senate candidate) Angus King Sylvanus Thayer Alden Partridge Dr. Seuss Fred Rogers Jeffrey Immelt Louis Gerstner

The Motto

Just some personal checks on the various English translations of the Dartmouth motto in the bible.

  • King James:
    • Isiah 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness
    • Matthew 3:3/Mark1:3/Luke3:4 The voice of one crying in the wilderness
    • John 1:23 I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness
  • English Standard:
    • Isiah 40:3 A voice cries: "In the wilderness...
    • Matthew 3:3/Mark1:3/Luke3:4 The voice of one crying in the wilderness
    • John 1:23 I am the voice of one crying out in the wilderness
  • New International:
    • Isiah 40:3 A voice of one calling: "In the desert...
    • Matthew 3:3/Mark1:3/Luke3:4 A voice of one calling in the desert
    • John 1:23 I am the voice of one calling in the desert

On a page on the Dartmouth website, I came across this:

The College motto ("a voice crying out in the wilderness") comes from the 40th chapter of
the Book of Isaiah in the Old Testament. The "voice" represents the voice of religion in
the darkness of the unsettled wilderness. Eleazar selected this motto because he
considered the primary mission of his school to be teaching the natives about
Christianity. [1]

I think maybe that is the translation that should appear in the article.--Osprey39 19:06, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The motto isn't the English phrase, or the Bible's Greek original, or the abstract Biblical concept. The motto is the Latin phrase "Vox clamantis in deserto"; that's what we're translating. (Of course there are multiple ways of doing this; options 1, 2, 5, & 8 above are all acceptable.) Doops | talk 20:47, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

I changed the translation of the motto to the more literal, "the voice of one crying out in the wilderness." "Clamantis" is clearly a genitive, not a nominative. It does not agree in case with "vox."

"One of the most prestigious colleges in the world"

I've (again) removed the phrase "regarded as one of the most prestigous colleges in the world" from the lead paragraph. I suspect the anon is trolling, but, for what it's worth, if the statement comes back in that wording I'm going to slap an NPOV notice on the page.

Simply by noting that a college is a member of the Ivy League, you have established that it is

  • of extremely high academic caliber;
  • both academically and socially prestigious;
  • by U. S. standards, of historic age and significance.

90% of readers will understand this instantly and the rest can read the article about the Ivy League.

66.245.86.251's comment that "Cornell is a member of the ivy league and they are not prestigious" is ridiculous. If Cornell does not have prestige, what they have will do until the real thing comes along. I don't want to get into debates over whether Cornell is more or less prestigious than Dartmouth. But I'll venture that a) Cornell is less prestigious than Harvard and more prestigious than Brown, and that b) Dartmouth, too, is less prestigious than Harvard and more prestigious than Brown.

The statement "regarded as one of the most prestigious colleges in the world" is vacuously true if you are sufficiently vague about the phrase "one of," but I think that by most standards that's overstated boosterism.

I hope that most Dartmouth alums do not want to be perceived as strutting peacocks with forest-green tailfeathers. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 21:44, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Still - see the Ivy League discussion, Dartmouth and Princeton are considered to put out the finest undergraduate educations in the Ivies, with Yale or even Harvard in the mix for inherited prestige or connection to their excellent graduate schools. Dartmouth is only Ivy school to spend fortune mostly on undergraduate education, so "undergraduate excellence and prestige" is worth a mention - somebody craft one and put it in - I'll defend against NPOV deleters.

Dartmouth College translates it as "A voice crying in the wilderness," so to ensure consistency, we should keep it as "A voice crying in the wilderness." Similarly, UPenn translates its motto as "Laws without morals are useless," not as it is sometimes corrected, "Laws without morals are in vain."

"Rocky vs The Rock;" "The Rock/The John"

I've snipped the amusing-if-true-but-I-don't-believe-it story:

It was originally called The Rock, but then spokespeople for the Rockefellers asked that the center not be referred to as The Rock. Soon, it was called The John. Naturally, not wanting the center to be named after the potty, the Rockefellers allowed the place to be called The Rock.

This is interesting if true, but needs attribution/citation. Anyone wishing to reinsert it: please provide some verifiable source for this information. And please provide evidence that it is generally called "The Rock," not "Rocky," as earlier revisions stated. (The original source for the "Rocky" nickname was the original article, contributed during a Dartmouth CS class exercise and hence presumably the work of a Dartmouth student).

My initial reaction is that it is believable that "spokespeople for the Rockefellers asked that the center not be referred to as The Rock." But the remainder of the story sounds more like a proposal, a joke, an invention, or a legend, and that I doubt whether the Rockefellers actually would have officially changed their mind.

But I question whether it is even called "The Rock."

It's noticeable that the website for the Hopkins Center makes a point of calling it "The Hop" but the website for the Rockefeller says nothing whatsoever about "The Rock."

Google site search on site:www.dartmouth.edu "The Rock" does not show any hits referring to the Rockefeller Center.

On the other hand, the site's actual URL is http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rocky and this schedule for meetings of a faculty web users' group http://www.dartmouth.edu/~wug/agendas/032000.html refers to the meetiing place as "Rocky 1930." These strongly suggests to me that the place is informally called "Rocky," not "The Rock." Dpbsmith (talk) 10:57, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)


I'm a student at Dartmouth and I've never once heard it called "The Rock," but it's more or less universally reffered to as "Rocky" by students and faculty alike.

Featured article?

What do the regular maintainers of this article think of proposing it as a featured article? Masterhomer 20:33, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)


the thing about the rock is the library at Brown, not Dartmouth

Dartmouth, Alexander McCall Smith, and Gaborone...

I don't really think this belongs in the article, but it made me smile and I thought I'd share it.

Tears of the Giraffe is the second in a series of novels by Alexander McCall Smith, the first being The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency. They are set in Gaborone, Botswana and feature an engaging, vaguely-Miss-Marple-like self-taught detective named Precious Ramotswe. In the novel, an American client comes to Mma. Ramotswe, and, in describing her problem says:

We came out here with our son, Michael, who was then just eighteen. He had been due to go to college that year, but we decided that he could have a year out with us before he started at Dartmouth. That's a very good college in America, Mma. Some of our colleges are not very good at all, but that one is one of the best. We were proud that he had a place there.

Dpbsmith (talk) 00:09, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Mascot

The other day, I listed "Keggy the Keg" as our (Dartmouth's) mascot and provided a link for him. Somebody named dpdsmith took it down and claimed that it was a "one time only joke mascot created by a campus humor magazine." While Keggy the Keg was created by Dartmouth's humor magazine, he is in fact the mascot of Dartmouth College. Keggy was conceived partially out of the student body’s growing disgust by the ever increasing ineptitude of the current college administration and it’s over zealous attempts to ban and censor anything and everything that could possibly offend anyone. Keggy is by no means a “one time only joke.” He made his debut at the homecoming football game of ’03 and since has attended almost every football game and most hockey games. Students all over campus can be seen sporting the attractive Keggy T-shirts which depict the lovable fellow drinking from his own tap and have the words “Get Pumped,” and “Go Kegs” written on them. Further evidence of Keggy’s legitimacy can be seen by that fact that snow sculpture for the most recent Dartmouth Winter Carnival (’05) was an enormous pirate ship which was christened “Captain Keggy’s Carnival Cruiser” by the student assembly based on a vote of the student body.

While Keggy may not be recognized as the official mascot by perversely politically correct and out-of-touch-with-reality administrators, Keggy instantly reached iconic status at his first homecoming game, and has since found a permanent place in the hearts of the sons and daughters of Dartmouth.

  • Well, if Keggy the Keg is an important facet of student culture, put something appropriate the text of the article, being sure to include an accurate statement of Keggy's unofficial status. But keep it out of the summary box. http://athletics.dartmouth.edu/aboutdart/nickname.html says plainly that the athletic teams' nickname is "Big Green" and that currently Dartmouth athletic teams have no "tangible mascot, symbol or nickname." Two possibilities: a very brief mention after the sentence "The teams' former mascot, the Dartmouth Indian, no longer is used." How about "Since 2003, Dartmouth events have been attended by Keggy the Keg, a subversive and unofficial mascot, invented by the campus humor magazine and beloved by students, though denied by officials?" Or if Keggy is truly significant, perhaps a short paragraph or section in the Student Life section. Be sure to maintain a neutral point of view. Dpbsmith (talk) 01:55, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

"prestige" comment

Watchers of this page should see this poll about whether this page should contain a phrase like "widely considered one of the most prestigious universities in the world". Nohat 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Dartmouth Film Society

There are two sections on the Dartmouth Film Society. One seems to be considerably longer than the other. I think the two can be reconciled.--Osprey39 19:08, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Comparison with other schools

I just deleted AaronS's edits in which he claims that a disproportionately large proportion of Dartmouth alums go into businees as opposed to politics. As "proof" he gives an unsourced percentage and compares this with the high percentage of international relations majors at Georgetown. He goes on to similarly compare Dartmouth to MIT, Amherst, Brown, etc. Comparaisons with other schools on such statistics are not appropriate for the lead paragraph of an article on Dartmouth. If anyone wants to make another section on "measures of superiority" or whatever, fine, but at least source the stats and avoid irrelevant information (like the concentration of IR majors at Georgetown, music majors at Oberlin, sports marketing majors at springfield community college, etc)

That wasn't my edit, dumb-dumb. --AaronS 04:26, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

"emphasizes its undergraduate program over its graduate schools"

A statement that

Indeed, of all the schools in the Ivy League, Dartmouth is perhaps the only one that emphasizes its undergraduate program over its graduate schools.

was recently changed to:

Of Ivy League universities, Dartmouth, along with Brown and Princeton, emphasizes its undergraduate program over its graduate schools.

I'm not happy with either of these statements resting solely on the authority of the contributor. I think they should be backed up with good source citation... a quotation from the school's catalog or admissions department or some well-known guide to colleges, or something like that.

If nobody comes up with some kind of verifiable source for this statement—in either form—I think it should be removed. Dpbsmith (talk) 23:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Truly Undergraduate

I publish college guidebooks for over 200 universities in the U.S. From my research I have found that the students at Dartmouth sense a blatant emphasis on undergraduate education. Here is a quote from a student there...

I wouldn’t trade my chance to attend Dartmouth for anything, for I’ve discovered that students are privy to the best undergraduate experience in the nation while attending the College on the Hill. Unlike so many other institutions these days—the College experience at Dartmouth is truly undergraduate. Professors teach every class and generally treat students like royalty. Sure, Dartmouth has a few graduate students, but they skitter about on the edge of campus, while everything important to undergrads surrounds the Green.

from the College Prowler Guidebook; Dartmouth College - Off the Record

-- A "blatant" emphasis? A Dartmouth student might say that the typical university has a blatant emphasis on graduate studies and research, giving short shrift to the true objects of an educational institution.

Dartmouth's billiards club

The Dartmouth billiards club is being voted on for deletion right now, as it's not notable enough on its own to warrant a page. I figured a Dartmouther (... what do you call yourselves, anyway?) might want to take a look to see if you want to merge any of the content over here, as I noticed you have a number of student org's listed. Cheers, JDoorjam 22:17, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

["Dartmouthers" are (technically, should be) called "Dartmothians.]

This is very likely a product of Peter C. Wayner's class project, which last year netted some 500-600 decent articles and about fifty that ended up on VfD. Most of the latter ultimatedly ended up being merged into Dartmouth College.
Sons and daughters of Dartmouth, you may wish to take a look at User:Dpbsmith/Dartmouth for some thoughts of mine.
This year's assignment is apparently due tomorrow, and we will probably see a few articles on trivial aspects of Dartmouth student life. I hope everyone will be courteous to our guests. Dpbsmith (talk) 22:37, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
Well, a few I noticed on a single page of new pages:

sjorford →•← 10:24, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Happy medium between one catch-all and lotsa nuggets

Hi. As is explained above, over the last few years the wikipedia has seen a lot of small, arguably non-notable articles on facets of Dartmouth life. Most of them get VfD'd and their content gets merged into this page. This has led to a Dartmouth College page full of a gazillion little sections on individual facets of Dartmouth life.

It seems to me that this is getting out of hand and this page is getting hard to use because of it. There should be a happy medium: each club doesn't warrant its own page, but the Dartmouth College article shouldn't be burdened with so many little largely unconnected nuggets. A deletionist might argue for paring all that info out of the wikipedia altogether; but it seems much more friendly, respectful, and ultimately useful to simply spin it off elsewhere. To hold all this information, why not create these subpages: student organizations at Dartmouth and athletics at Dartmouth? Then this main Dartmouth College page could have brief summaries on these two subjects with the usual Main article: student organizations at Dartmouth pointer at the head of the appropriate § (in the same way that, e.g., most country articles deal with that country's history). Thoughts? Doops | talk 12:12, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

OK, why has this not drawn any comment, one way or the other? Shall I just assume there's no objection? Doops | talk 04:41, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
I saw your comment, thought it sounded reasonable, sort of wanted to wait for Peter Wayner's 2005 class exercise to finish before getting into it. The Dartmouth article is now 46K so some kind of breakout is reasonable. I might have preferred a single breakout page with a title like Dartmouth College student life, but if you're actually going to do real work on this than it's your call. Dpbsmith (talk) 12:51, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
OK, I finally got around to doing this. There are now two spin-off pages, Dartmouth College student groups and Dartmouth College athletic teams. Please visit, develop, and enrich these pages. Doops | talk 04:29, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

"Midwestern Ivy League" ?

Contributors to this page may be interested in this article, which has been proposed for deletion:

Midwestern Ivy League

Please review the article and provide your input on that article's Votes for Deletion page. - 18.95.1.22 04:01, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Questionable claim

The opening ¶ currently claims that Dartmouth's preference for calling itself a "College" (rather than a "University") was mandated by the court in the Dartmouth College case. Is there any basis for this in fact? (That case's article makes no mention of it, which certainly doesn't surprise me, as the story sounds very apocryphal.) Doops | talk 04:48, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

It appears as if someone dumped in a fairly garbled bit of shoot-from-the-hip anecdote. Reads like it was written by Holden Caulfield. There is some relationship between the court case and the institution's preference for calling itself a college, but what's there sounds all wrong.
The paragraph seems to have been added by an anon about a month ago.
The case is described in some detail in the second paragraph of "The College" section.
I think the paragraph should be removed and reverted to "For reasons of tradition the institution as a whole is named "Dartmouth College" and not "Dartmouth University." That's all that needs to be said about it in the opening paragraph, anyway. Interesting details on the case etc. can be added to the historical section. Dpbsmith (talk) 12:47, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
The name is not just a matter of tradition. I'd call it a "matter of tradition and mission". It's a matter of reality, and of the fact that the alumni as a whole would have the head on a platter of any administrator who seriously suggested changing the official name of the institution to Dartmouth University. Dartmouth can not ever hope to compete in terms of prestige, grant money, faculty or graduate students with the major research universities. It is an undergraduate college with a small number of modestly sized graduate and professional departments, and the primary mission has always been and remains the teaching of undergraduates. It can and does compete very favorably with any other institution in that mission, and tens of thousands of alumni are adamant about the name reflecting that fact.
All I'm saying is that, in my opinion, the opening paragraph ought to have a) one, b) concise sentence that explains the name. The rich details can go later in the article. And I'll bet there are institutions smaller and less comprehensive than Dartmouth that call themselves "universities" although I can't think of one offhand... Dpbsmith (talk) 20:30, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Wesleyan University, Colgate University, Sewanee, Washington and Lee University... Dylan 04:54, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

No mention of BlitzMail

Wikipedia has an extensive article on Blitzmail, but absolutely no mention of it in this article (they're separated by four degrees) -- and it's a remarkably important part of the College culture. Currently, there aren't any areas into which a paragraph on Blitz would easily fit -- any ideas for other how to work it in? Dylan 06:23, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I would suggest either placing a "Technology" as subhead under "Student Life" or creating its own subhead. Since Dartmouth is known for being ahead of the curve when it comes to intergrating new technology into campus life. For example:

HOTTEST FOR THE TECH-SAVVY

Dartmouth College, Hanover, N.H.

Dartmouth's first computer was so expensive that only faculty and administrators were allowed to use it. But Profs. John Kemeny and Thomas Kurtz understood that computers were tools for everyone. Forty years ago they created the computer language BASIC, which helped hasten the personal-computer revolution. The school has been in the forefront of technological change ever since, with one of the first e-mail programs and an early campus computer network. Dartmouth was also the first Ivy to install Wi-Fi on campus. The school offers free software to students so they can turn their laptops into telephones using the school's Wi-Fi—a good thing, because regular cell-phone service on the rural campus can be spotty. Newsweek - America's 25 Hot Schools: Hottest for the Tech-savvy

Housing Clusters

I'm a student at Dartmouth right now, and that comment about how Dartmouth students most identify with their clusters is nonsense. No one goes around saying "I'm a Gold Coaster." The only possible exceptions are the River, East Wheelock, and the Choates, but that sentence should still be changed and replaced with a more accurate description of what the dorm situation actually is. Nicolasdz 08:21, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Help with Booz Allan Hamilton link?

So, I found the "Most Enduring Institutions" report on the Booz Allen Hamilton website and created a refernce in the first paragraph to it, but I'm not exactly sure how to cite the report in the "References" section at the bottom of the page. Can someone more familiar with Wiki than me help me out?

Thanks, Nicolasdz 07:46, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

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