Talk:Dark Jedi

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Contents 1 Request for Cleanup 2 Two questions 3 Grey Jedi 4 Why must they not affiliated with the Sith?

[edit] Request for Cleanup

• Support and Propose I feel that the introduction is too long for a wikipedia article. The introduction should be only a few sentences and give a reader immediate access to the gist of the article. The sections and section titles should be amended to make this article more readable to the non-specialist. --Davidkinnen 22:17, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

• Support. I too feel the intro is lopsided indeed. A bit of chopping and surgery, and the article will be as right as rain. --Maru 22:41, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Two questions

Is the Force lightning (typical of the Dark Side) specially associated with the Sith, to the point that mastering it makes one a Sith? Or is it so that somehow one MUST be a Sith to really master that power? The current text makes it appear so.

Also, is there any reason why a Dark Jedi necessarily seeks other powers besides the Force? --Luis Dantas 10:51, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

It always seemed to me that the Sith did things entirely different from the Jedi- ie Dark Jedi do precisely what Jedi do- except, evilly, I guess. Whereas Sith enslave and mutate entire species, cause stars to go nova, possess from beyond the grave etc. There always seemed to be a qualitative difference, so I'd go with 'to learn to wield lightning effectively, one must posess the Sith skill set, and thus be a Sith'.

As for your second question, Dark Jedi are megalomaniacal, power-hungry (lust is of the Dark Side). So it makes perfect sense they'd try to diversify past just Force powers. Never know when one might run into ysalamiri, after all... --maru 19:49, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Simply for the sake of disagreeing, Yoda is able to control lightning in E2, does that make him a sith?! (LOL) 70.105.106.147 23:07, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

For the sake of disagreeing, I'll merely point out that redirecting is vastly different from aiming and generating Force lightning. --Maru (talk) 03:18, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Grey Jedi

I am not sure it is worth having such a lengthy section about Grey Jedi when there is a separate article. Also, the current wording implies that all Grey Jedi except Kyle Katarn eventually surrended to the Dark Side and failed to recover. I do not think that holds true. At least Qui-Gon and arguably Ulic were not pawns of the Dark Side at the time of their deaths. Luis Dantas 19:19, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why must they not affiliated with the Sith?

As far as I know, any Sith that can use the force (ie: not Sith troopers), is a Dark Jedi. A Dark Jedi just is anyone who uses the dark side of the Force (and not the light). In Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, you encounter many "Dark Jedi" who are members of the Sith Empire. -Xol 23:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

All this is true. What is your point? Jon Hart 17:48, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Quoted from this article: "...[Dark Jedi] meet two requirements. One, they do not hold themselves to the dogma of either the Jedi or the Sith..." - but yet many Dark Jedi are Sith. -Xol 16:12, 6 March 2006 (UTC)