User talk:Daniel Case

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Hi, welcome to the third volume of my talk page.

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[edit] Gliding

Thank you for giving Gliding good article status. I will make the changes that you suggest. How far is it from Featured Article status? I would not be able to nominate it myself, but would you be interested in doing this, after I have made any necessary changes? JMcC 12:45, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I have self-nominated it as a featured article candidate. If you would still like to second the proposal, your support would be welcome. JMcC 11:12, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the copy edit and the provisional support. You said that there was one fact that you would like cited. Would you let me know what it was? I will then look for it. JMcC 06:51, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks for the copy edit. I could quibble with a couple, but in general the improvements are beneficial. Yes, my first language is English, and as an author, it is usually quite good. (I get upset about misused apostrophes and 'less' instead of 'fewer'). However, it is always much easier to start with a clean sheet of paper or with a freash viewpoint. I found I could read and re-read drafts of my book, but it needed my editors to point out some glaringly obvious changes. This limitation may be peculiar to me. If you can change to full support, it would be appreciated. At present the article is being ignored. If there is anything else I can do, let me know. Thank you once again. 13:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Daniel. Sorry to post another message to you so soon. You said that "Basically, it comes down to some places where we could go a little further with what we have." Please, just tell me where. I have moved stuff about gliders to Glider and more detail about competitions to another article that is still very much work in progress called Gliding competitions. This is to keep the main article to a manageable size. JMcC 17:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you again for your latest edits and comments. I think I have adopted all your suggestions with the exception of the illustration of the On-Line Contest. This is not visually appealing and so I have not included an image from a screen capture. As ever comments are welcome but a change from provisional support would now also be most welcome. JMcC 23:55, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Daniel, I have loaded a new photo (and I think a better one) rather than waiting for a response about the previous photo which used an old tag. JMcC 20:06, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

One area where another pair of eyes would help would be in checking consistency of spelling. I have tried to standardize on US spelling because that was the way the article had been started. However it is easy for me to drop into British spelling. JMcC 22:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for helping Gliding get to Featured Article status. I have learned a lot from you and other reviewers that will help in future work. JMcC 08:31, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer. I was wondering how the article of the day was chosen. I cannot think of a significant day for gliding in the near future. The earliest date would be George Cayley's birthday but this is not until 27 December. Any day would therefore be fine. JMcC 07:12, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about the appearance on Thursday of Gliding as a featured article. JMcC 13:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving

Hi Daniel, I can see you are an advanced Wikipedia user. Can you please help me to restore and archive my talk page? It seems I accidentally vandalized by deleting it. Cutter20 07:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the assistance with the Turnitin page. Cutter20 22:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Snowshoer packing skis.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Snowshoer packing skis.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}. If you have not already done so, please also include the source of the image. In many cases this will be the website where you found it.

Please specify the copyright information and source on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, or ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Nilfanion (talk) 23:50, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

A Creative Commons license allows the copyright holder to change the license at any time (including to All Rights Reserved). However, any copies created from the image whilst it was CC licensed are always available under CC - even if the creator's license is altered. This is a particular problem with Flickr imagery, as their licenses can be easily altered and there is no record to prove if it was ever freely available. On this particular image I can see no CC licensing (though I might be missing it), its possible that it was licensed freely, but it is also possible that it was never, and without proof its better to err on the cautious side (ie deletion).--Nilfanion (talk) 15:34, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CM Punk up for FA

Since your passing of the article as GA I and other editors have worked overtime to improve it and I self-nominated it for Featured Article status. Since the GA passing the number of sources has doubled, I have combined several sections to incorporate the trivial Tattoos section into a prose analysis of the gimmick, which also used parts of the headers, and have expanded on the prose in the article. If you would like to take a second look it would be much appreciated. This is a side by side comparison of the article when it passed GA and what it looks like now. –– Lid^(Talk) 15:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CfD heads up...

You wrote— Just thought I'd let you know that I listed Category:Companies based in Orange County, New York, which you created, for deletion. My reasons are there. If you wish to justify its continued existence, please do. Daniel Case 04:49, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Time has obviated the percieved need for the category. I support deletion. Thanks for the courtesy of notification. Williamborg (Bill) 05:01, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Coke

Well I would like to thank you for such a brilliant article! I greatly enjoyed reading it and as I wasnt around to witness this great milestone in the history of Coca-Cola I also found it extremely educational. Thanks again, *bj* 11:34, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Devil wears Prada Review

Hi Daniel, could you explain to me why you removed my link to the review page on this movie? In the log you call it a spam link, but it's simply a reference to my movie review web log exactly the same as the link directly above it is. What makes my link spam? --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.194.12.240 (talk • contribs) 15:39, November 1, 2006 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I've reverted all of the additions that the above user made to various film articles. --Erik (^talk/_contrib) @ 19:47, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Your answer is clear and I'm sorry I caused you that much extra work reverting all the changes. I assumed it was ok and it would be valued to add a link to just another review, but appearently it's not. No sweat, but it might be a good idea to put some kind of notice at every page's edit link, so people get an idea of what's appreciated and what not before they do all their work... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.194.12.240 (talk • contribs).

Might want to watch that talk page humor -- that stuff's public, you know. :) --Erik (^talk/_contrib) @ 20:10, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Appreciate the time and effort you guys put into this, Wikipedia rulez ;-)

[edit] The Ulster County navbox

Thanks for putting that in the remaining town articles. Where comes your interest in the area? It isn't apparent from your user page.

Or were you just trying to be helpful after seeing all those repetitive edits on my part? Daniel Case 20:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't know Ulster County from Uriah Heep;-) I noticed the vandalism on the New Paltz page so I decided to check the articles on other towns in the area, so while I was at it I stuck in some of the missing infoboxes. I think the same vandal(s) went after some articles on Chicago or Mexico, that's probably how I wound up checking up on New Paltz. Why would anyone have a beef with New Paltz? I can understand Pancho Villa and Taco getting hit a lot.. Tubezone 20:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Alice Sebold.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Alice Sebold.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

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[edit] The Devil's Tree

Oh that's good however, I was wondering is the Devil's Tree actually in Martinsville, New Jersey? Cause I been there and I believe it is actually located in Basking Ridge. Valoem ^talk 22:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Highlands, or whatever it is

I took that with a phone. I've never gotten into any issues uploading pictures I took with it, especially in the quality department. So much for that. And sorry for the typo. It happens sometimes. And you have your wish, I'll stay away from the Hudson Valley. Pacific Coast Highway ^{{Gobble Gobble! • Happy Thanksgiving!}} 18:51, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] deletionism

I don't think you're actually a deletionist; everything you advocate deleting is pretty much incontrovertibly against policy to begin with. It takes advocating deletion in more borderline cases to really be one. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 17:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On November 9, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dutch Reformed Church (Newburgh, New York), which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Harry McNeish

I added some changes to Harry McNeish since you rated it a start quality. Please re-rate the quality of Harry McNeish. Thanks. --Jreferee 06:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Larry Csonka old.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Larry Csonka old.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

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[edit] Re: Fair use paranoia

All I can say at this point is, I wish editors were as gung-ho in tagging and/or removing copyvios before the change... ;) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 18:06, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes made to Action Park (not by me!)

Hey Daniel! Someone tagged Action Park because of the use of a YouTube video. Just today, someone else removed the tag and the link to the YouTube video. I didn't feel capable of taking up the discussion of the issue with whoever this is, but I do tend to feel that that particular video should be OK to keep, especially since GAR is out of business and there's some possibility that the copyright in its Action Park commercials has lapsed. You might wish to pursue this issue further. Thanks. --Tkynerd 19:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Good! I think it's important for Wikipedia to steer clear of legal issues by being careful about the use of copyrighted material, but I also think Wikipedia should be somewhat aggressive about fair use. :-) Thanks. --Tkynerd 15:05, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Cleese pic at Commons

Daniel Case wrote:

I had plenty of stuff on the author (Alan Light at Flickr), but I'd forgotten a license tag (cc-by-2.0). Is that what you wanted? I've got it now. Daniel Case 05:16, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Yep, that's fine. Sorry if it comes across as annoying, but it's essential that images have proper licensing information – Gurch 05:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guilty Pleasures

You recently disputed the fair use status of Image:Guilty Pleasures.jpg with the reason that it should not be used in the main Barbra Streisand article. I uploaded this image to illustrate the album article Guilty Pleasures (Barbra Streisand album), as described on the image page. I agree that the image should not be used to illustrate the main Barbra Streisand article, however, the image should not be deleted, as it is needed for the album article.

I propose removing the image from the main Barbra Streisand article. The image must remain for the album article, where it is allowed to be. --Daniel Lawrence 15:38, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spyware FAR

I have closed the review for now because it is common practice to allow some time to articles recently featured on the main page before nominating for FAR. The reasons for this are: to allow time for the article to stabilize, and to allow for concerns to be resolved on the talk page. Joelito (talk) 14:10, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Just wait until the smoke clears, usually a week. In the meantime try to motivate yourself and other editors into improving the article. Joelito (talk) 14:59, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rondout Reservoir

Hi, is this where to contact you? My attempt on the Rondout Reservoir page was a bit ham-handed, I admit, but I'm trying to improve. You do an amazing job on Wikipedia. I can't imagine how much time you must devote, but I'm sure it's a lot.

Regarding the quote by the DEP employee regarding the "f---ing ignoramouses": I know for a fact that while the quote is accurate, it was NOT said to the THR in response to the forged inspection report controversy. The THR editor who worked on that story (Joe Dowd) had a personal disagreement with the employee and crafted the story to make it seem as if that was the DEP's reaction to the controversy. If you go back and read the original THR story about the issue you'll see the very ambiguous language that was used to describe the timing of that quote:

http://archive.recordonline.com/archive/2006/01/17/news-gbnycdams(live)-01-17.html

The section is as follows:

"I can already see exactly what this story ... is going to look like," Michaels said at one point. "It's going to be written by a bunch of (expletive) ignoramuses, and it's going to be done in such a way as to make us look as bad as possible."

When the THR writes "said at one point," that is their way of confusing the issue to make it seem like that response was to the news of the inspection reports. But it was not. It was said in response to another item the THR was asking about, and then inserted in that article to satisy a particular editor. If the comment was made in response to the forged inspection reports you can be sure the THR would not have used that kind of vague language. And when they insert the ellipses (sp? the three dots) that's to skip over the topic that the employee was addressing with the quote. (As in, "I can already see what this story about flooding is going to look like")

I am not aware of any encyclopedia that prints as true statements it reads in one single newspaper. Also, your inclusion on the page of the phrase "allowed himself to be quoted" is a clear sign of an editorial judgement on your part that should not be part of any encyclopedia.

Thanks for your attention to this matter.

BTW, here's the THR story that's the citation for the engineering reports showing that the dams are in fact safe:

http://archive.recordonline.com/archive/2006/02/21/news-gbjgdamsreports-02-21.html

I still don't think newspaper articles should be sources for encyclopedia articles, but there it is.

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[edit] Catskills map

Yea, I had seen that several pages had similar requests for a map showing where a region was in relation to other regions, like the Catskills, Poconos, Berkshires, Green Mountains, etc etc. Not having the time to make different maps for each, I figured I could at least make one that covered the region and could be used on these various pages. But being multi-purpose like that, and needing to be readable in limited pixel space, I used the letter-key thing, realizing it is suboptimal. But, given time constraints, it was that or nothing. If I get a chance, I'll work on making individual maps. I haven't gotten a chance to add this map to the various pages it may be useful on, like the Berkshires. The Berkshires page already has a map, but only of Massachusetts. So I was not sure whether to add mine and if so, where.. So, time being short, I just left it off.. Thanks for the feedback! Pfly 02:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kindred spirits

Comment moved from your User page. -- Gogo Dodo 05:59, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Daniel, The Durand, "Kindred spirits" is a well known painting , but even that artist would readily admit his technical inferiority to the Cole from 1826 in the Warner Collection[1]. "Kindred Spirits" has so many topographical faults that if one goes to Kaaterskill Falls [2](hard enough these days) they would not know where to look, as it is the painting equivalent of a venture into fiction. Use your eyes, compare the two, and the Cole is far more accurate and being much earlier, more colorful, it is far more important in the development of the Hudson River School. I have studied this for over twenty years and all of Cole's and Durand's peers would agree. Read the Howatt books on the Hudson River School [3]or anything by John Wilmerding [4]. If you want to say Church is more important, that is fine, but not Durand, despite recent headlines concerning the sale of "Kindred Spirits."

Alexander Boyle R_AlexanderBoyle@msn.com

[edit] WikiProject Steely Dan

I know this could be considered spamming, but I couldn't help noticing that you have a Steely Dan userbox. I am trying to start a Steely Dan WikiProject and was just wondering if you were interested. Come to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Steely_Dan to sign up and visit the WikiProject-to-be's temporary page here. NauticaShades 16:17, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Frost Valley YMCA

I saw that you moved this article to put it in line with other YMCA articles.

I understand this, but consider that

• Frost Valley's website itself uses "Frost Valley YMCA".
• It is locally and regionally known as "Frost Valley YMCA."

Are other YMCA articles named this way regardless of the particular Y's official name? Daniel Case 13:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't care, name it how you want. Chris 17:42, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Soft drinks

This is to advise you that the above named project is currently being considered for deletion. Please feel free to follow the links or go directly to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion#Wikipedia:WikiProject Soft drinks to take part in the discussion. Thank you. Badbilltucker 15:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Created a userbox and banner for the project. As is, the banner does not permit assessment. If you want the project to do assessments, let me know and I will change it accordingly. Also, if you haven't already, the WikiProject Guide may be useful in getting a project of the ground. The original creator of the project may be gone, so you might be the one left holding the bag here. Sorry about that. If you think I can be of any help, let me know, and I'll do what I can to help. Best of luck. Badbilltucker 19:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

You have no idea how much I symphasize with you regarding not being able to follow up. I've basically created several projects myself just so that we could get a few more articles assessed so that wikipedia could know the relative status of a lot of them. I'm currently going through all the dogs articles to ensure that they at least have the banner, and then I'm going back to the Germany project to assess their articles. After that, I've got Radio Stations, Religion, Africa, Canada, Italy, France, and Munich to get through. However, as none of these assessments are really a priority, I will have time to try to help a little with the soft drinks project. If you want any sort of help regarding setting up the project (I am fairly good at that by this point) let me know and I'll do what I can. Badbilltucker 23:01, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Are You Originally From Summit, NJ?

Hi Dan,

I grew up in Summit, NJ and knew a kid in my grade school (Brayton)named Daniel Case, born in 1968. Just wondering if you are the same person. My name is John Coviello.

I was adding to the Passaic River article and noticed you were the last one to add to it.

John

[edit] Derivative works of copyrighted products

Thanks for creating the proposal Wikipedia:Replaceability of fair-use images. I fully agree. One issue should possibly covered. I do not know if I want to bring this up on the talk page, as it will only make things more complicated.

Designer items including furniture, kitchenware, and buildings may be covered by copyright. The United States does not have panorama freedom like Germany and some other contries. It may therefore be impossible to create free images of widely marketed products or public places.

Some examples:

1. I have been using a set of pressed glass tumblers in everyday use for the last 15 years. This set is marketed in Finland at low prices in discount stores, including Anttila, our verson of Sears. The set was originally desiged by Aino Aalto, first wife Alvar Aalto, who died in 1949. On my last visit to New York I noticed that the glasses were for sale at the gift shop of the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, This particular week they were on promotion at 25% of the regular price. I took photos of the display stand with the SALE sign, and posted them to Wikimedia Commons. Two weeks later, I noticed that they had been deleted the next day! The criteria for deletion is stated in Commons:Derivative works. Although the I did not argee with the application of the guidlines in this particular case, I decided not to reupload the images.
2. A picture of Fifth Avenue outside the Guggenheim Museum on commons was also requested for deletion. The picture was saved only by the fact that the building is from before 1990. (See:Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Guggenheim museum exterior.jpg)

If photograps of these objects really can not be free, then by the replaceability criteria we could claim fair use for any images. There does not seem to be any legal incentive to use user generated images. The lesson: If they do not let us photograph their products, then we have the moral right to use their promotional images. (As an example I used this as a fair use rational for Image:Knoll - Eero Saarinen pedestal chairs.jpg.) -- Petri Krohn 03:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

P.S. If you think that this issue should be discussed now, feel free to move this comment to Wikipedia talk:Replaceability of fair-use images -- Petri Krohn 03:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

(Moved from User talk:Petri Krohn)

Are you saying, that even though these images were not allowed on Commons, they would be accepted as GFDL on the English Wikipedia? Is this because there is genuinely a difference on derivative work on Commons and En? Or is this because there is less copyright paranoia on En?

Anyway, this still leaves us material that cannot be free content, even on the English Wikipedia, and therefore should fall under non-replaceability. --Petri Krohn 05:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gliding

Daniel, if you believed there were sentences that were badly phrased, you merely had to point these out to me during the FAC process. It is a little late now to start apologising for the article, especially as no apology is needed. JMcC 09:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coke

A lot of the protests against New Coke specifically referred to it's taste (i.e. a lot of people insisted that they preferred the taste of the original coke). The protests weren't exclusively (and probably not even mainly) against the very idea of changing coke. But of course without a reference to cite, I don't think we can really say one way or another. Kaldari 02:30, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Steven Boone

Could you add some background regarding this change to the discussion on Talk:Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search. Cheers, John Vandenberg 01:01, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] fair use proposal

I think you'll find that I already commented on your proposal about a week ago. I largely agree with it, at any rate. john k 06:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

People considered recluses would be better, though still not ideal. How about "Individuals who purposefully evade the public eye" or something? --tjstrf talk 01:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Because "recluse" is generally derogatory in connotation. Therefore it is best to avoid using it except in cases where you intend to define its proper meaning alongside it in the text. --tjstrf talk 04:22, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image deletion

Hey again, Daniel. I think you can delete all those images you listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2006 December 4 with a simple {{db-g7}} tag if you are the only one who has modified them.

Given any thoughts recently to that old offer to run for adminship?--Kchase T 21:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what occurred to me after I put those all up.

I have given the adminship thing more thought and am leaning more closely to it now that I've been doing more RCP, but let's wait until at least January. Daniel Case 02:14, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Meetup

I know it's short notice if this is the first you've heard of it, but have you considered attending this? Looks like we're going to have a pretty good turnout. Kafziel ^Talk 17:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, looks interesting, I might want to bring my son. Would you be interested in sharing transportation? How are you planning to get into the city?

Also, I'm sorry your recent bid for adminship failed. Let me know and I'll come out and support you next time (and there will be a next time). Daniel Case 05:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Anna Wintour.jpg

Hello Daniel Case, sorry, but I am unable to see the change in license from cc-by-nc-nd-2.0 ro cc-by-2.5. It is still non-commercial and non-derivative license, which propmotes for speedy-deletion. It will have to be deleted, please try to fine free-images to retain the images. These types of images could be legal warnings for wikimedia. Regards, Shyam ^(T/C) 19:43, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Daniel Case, I am very sorry for bothering you. But I did not see the comments by author. I generally go through the license which was released at the time of upload. I could not see the submitted comments. Thanks for your efforts. I had made comments on the commons file. It could be better if you post some comments which was mailed by the author to you. If this screenshot is not useful anymore, then could it be deleted? Regards, Shyam ^(T/C) 21:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion of fair-use policy amendment

Actually, that's not the part of the policy (enforcement and exceptions) I object to... I object to the first sentence of criterion #1. I gather it's probably much older than the amendment. The amendment gives teeth to the policy, which I think would be fine, if the policy itself were fine, but it's not. Perhaps the best way to go about it is to propose a new addition to the exceptions section of the policy. Let me mull it over. VoiceOfReason 14:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] White Deer Hole Creek

Thanks for your support and praise at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/White Deer Hole Creek. The next time I am feeling low about the Wiki I will read your kind words and feel much better again. As I said, please let me know your concerns or suggestions for improvement and I will do my best to address them. Yours, Ruhrfisch 20:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks very much for your hard work and copyedits. I have a picture of a bunker. I can try to get a photo of the source in the spring. I have never seen any discharge figures and there is no USGS gauge (or even a County flood warning gauge) on the creek. Very briefly I am fine with all but two of the edits. 1) The archeology was done prior to construction (it was a 6+ acre farm field before it was a sewage treatment plant). 2) There are two kinds of trails - those that are multi use, and those that are dedicated to just snowmobiling or xc skiing. I would like to discuss these more, but I need to respond to an Oppose on the FAC first. I am putting this here as well as the article talk page. Ruhrfisch 04:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Did you know?

On 9 December 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Montgomery Worsted Mills, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 16:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My apologies

For some reason I didn't catch your earlier reply to me. I just noticed it now, and I'm sorry I missed you. I ended up taking the train from Harriman. Sorry again - maybe next time! Kafziel ^Talk 14:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, there's one in April. That gives us lots of time to plan. (Harriman? Given the location, you'd have been better off going across the river instead. From where I live, I always go to Beacon to catch the train (But if I did have to go to Lower Manhattan, I would go to Campbell Hall instead).

How was it? I could just read the page, but first-person accounts are always more interesting.

We should think about planning a Hudson Valley meetup at some point.

Don't feel bad about missing my reply ... usually when you have multiple edits taking place to a talk page, you only see the last one when you check your watchlist. Daniel Case 14:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

It was pretty neat. Nice to be able to put faces with names of people I've been working with for so long, like Crazy Russian and Uncle Ed. Some of the conversations were a little over my head, since I focus more on writing articles than writing code and stuff, but it was interesting all the same.

Ever since Secaucus Junction opened, I take the train from Harriman to Penn Station. I never drive to Dutchess, Putnam, or Westchester if I can help it. I don't know why; I've driven across the country four times and I've been to five continents, but I've only been to Poughkeepsie twice in my life. Kafziel ^Talk 15:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good News!

	Thanks again for your contributions, support, and comments - White Deer Hole Creek made featured article! Take care, Ruhrfisch 17:11, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks especially for the barnstar, which is very much appreciated and my first actual barnstar (I already had a 'donut star'). I had only looked at current USGS and Lycoming County gauges, but after your comments I searched some more and found out there was a USGS gauge near Elimsport until 1994. The page on the web only gives stage and discharge for two floods, one of them Hurricane Agnes [5]. I will contact USGS and see if I can get the average discharge. The problem is that the gauge is pretty far upstream and so is not the total discharge. Any ideas on estimating or otherwise finding discharge at the mouth?

If discharge can be added, I want to get that in there before nominating the article for the main page. I took the latitude and longitude out for the source as well (since it is in the template now) and want to make it "...farms (many Amish)." in the lead as the farms are not primarily Amish. Are these edits OK with you?

I also want to look at Larrys Creek and clean it up some based on what I learned here. Thanks again, Ruhrfisch 17:11, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

• The bunker picture is already in the article at the very bottom (I took it a little over a week ago, before FAC, mostly for a short article on the Susquehanna Ordnance Depot I will write at some point). Cove Road runs within a short distance of the WDHC source, so I should be able to find the source and get a photo of it. The infobox picture is one of my favorites. I submitted it to WP:PPR to see if it could be a featured image, but they had technical issues with it (blown highlights, slight blur as it is a hand held shot in lowish light). I went back there this fall to try and get a picture with colored leaves, but the creek water level was lower and the leaf colors were mostly yellows and it was just not as inviting or lush a picture. Thanks, Ruhrfisch 19:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Miracle at the Meadowlands

Thanks for asking for that cite ... not only did I put it in, I decided to start the long-overdue task of making all the references into specific footnotes. Daniel Case 04:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Don't mention it—you never know how people will react to citation requests. I feel they help make this fascinating article even better. Keep up the good work. —xanderer 18:52, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your kind words. With a lot digging and three emails to the USGS I found some discharge data for Larrys Creek and White Deer Hole Creek and have added discharge information to both articles (infobox and Geology section). Since I am just a chemist ;-) if you would take a look and make sure I have not written anything dumb I would appreciate it. Thanks for asking about it - it got me digging again.

I am honored and glad that the articles I mostly wrote are an inspiration. It looks like there is a lot of information already there for Slide Mountain. I just skimmed it - looks like it could use more inline citations. If you want me to look it over at some point on the road to FA I would be glad to (and I have AndyZ's Peer Review script if you ever want that run). Your photos are very nice by the way - especially the Shawangunk Kill infobox shot. As for other stream articles being improved, I know Paulins Kill is a work in progress on its way (hopefully) to FA (I helped a lot with its Peer Review).

I had thought about writing about Bald Eagle Mountain and plan to help User:Dhaluza with the article s/he has started at some point (beat me to it). I could also write a little article about White Deer Ridge (North and South) as I learned about it writing WDHC. Other than that I am not sure there are any mountains I know well enough to write about (and I am stumped for lakes).

Being a nitpicker, I have two final questions (both on WDHC). 1) Can I revert the last sentence in the lead to "...farms (many Amish)." from your edit of "...farms (primarily Amish)."? I think of primarily as meaning mostly / majority, and the only data I have does not support that (although driving around Elimsport on Sunday there are many Amish out for rides and strolls). 2) Second lead paragraph now reads "...28.4% of the watershed given to agriculture and 71.6 percent...". I think it should be consistent - both "%" (how I wrote it) or probably better, both "percent" (someone's edit of one %). What do you think? Thanks again, Ruhrfisch 01:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright problems with Image:Warren Moon playing football.jpg

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[edit] NYSR-NYCR Newsletter - Issue 1

The New York State and County Route WikiProjects Newsletter Issue 001 – December 2006
Intro Issue The Beatles WikiProject has been running a newsletter for some time now to great success, and, after some consideration, I've decided to launch a similar effort for the New York County Routes and New York State Routes WikiProjects. This could prove to be a very effective medium of communication between the members of the groups, and with increased communication comes the possibility of increased production. For the most part, this first issue will be a "dry run" of sorts, to work out any bugs in the system. The first serious issue with permanent sections will most likely be January's issue. Nothing as elaborate as the Wikipedia Signpost is planned, but the amount of information that will be found here will more than make up for the lack of framework.	From the Editor This is a work-in-progress and likely will be for some time. As we get settled with a format, I'll begin to make some improvements to the barebones structure and give a little more life to this page. Your feedback on the content and format of this newsletter is greatly desired. With your help, we can make the newsletter better and more informative! Don't be afraid to comment! Lastly, remember that this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 002 – January 2007). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing! Happy holidays to everyone, regardless of how you celebrate. Contributor to this Issue TwinsMetsFan (Editor, Distributor)
DOT Beat Plans to reroute New York State Route 63 in Peoria, Covington, Wyoming County (15 miles southeast of Batavia) were unveiled on December 6. The project will eliminate a sharp curve present in the center of the hamlet, rerouting NY 63 along a new alignment to the north. Details will be finalized by Summer 2007 and construction will commence in Summer 2008. NYSDOT conducted a meeting on November 29 with Binghamton-area residents about the future conversion of New York State Route 17 to Interstate 86 from Horseheads to Binghamton. Topics of note included improvements to exit 67 (New York State Route 26, Endicott) and alternatives to exit 68, an eastbound exit only leading to Oak Street in Vestal, among which was the closure of the exit. New York State Route 23A, closed from Palenville to Haines Falls since June when record rains caused a retaining wall to collapse and give way to a mudslide, was reopened on November 22. During the time that the road was closed, numerous upgrades were made, including the replacement of culverts, upgrading of drainage systems along the road and the repair of both the collapsed wall as well as the existing retaining walls. Project News Remember to vote on next month's project featured article! Articles needing cleanup can always be found at Category:New York State articles needing work. Both state and county routes needing cleanup are fed into this category. Articles on reference routes are now being created in large numbers. As a general reminder, use {{Infobox NY Reference Route}}, link to your new article on the List of New York State Reference Routes and Parkway Routes, and, if you need a reference marker made, see TwinsMetsFan or Fwgoebel. Likewise, articles on county routes are also being made in impressive numbers. When writing these articles, be sure to abide by the guidelines on the project page, to maintain a consistent feel across all of the articles. Missing shields for county routes? See TwinsMetsFan or Northenglish. County routes in New York was recently created. Pictures of actual county route shields are greatly desired and needed. Also, if possible, some additional text and history about county routes in New York State would be welcome. New York State Route 11A remains the lowest active route without an article. The lowest decommissioned route with no article is New York State Route 7C. New York State Route 52 was, unfortunately, not qualified enough for Good Article status due to a lack of references (full report). Any references that can be added to the article, particularly the history section, are greatly appreciated. There are routes still lacking mileposts. Member News One month ago today, Fwgoebel came on board to the project and, in the time since, has contributed over 50 new articles on touring routes and has added to dozens more, including helping in the effort (along with JB82 and TwinsMetsFan) to convert all usages of Template:NYSRInt to {{NYint}}. It may be belated, but welcome!

Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Don't want it subst'd next time? – It's all here. TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 06:53, 16 December 2006 (UTC)