From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Contents 1 February 2006 1.1 Synchronize our watches... 1.2 Societal attitudes towards homosexuality 1.3 Nirvana and Dzogchen 1.4 Create 1.5 Crime cats 1.6 Disputes vs vandal wacking 1.7 Anon's "comments" 1.7.1 read it for yourself 1.7.2 ok 1.7.3 IF 1.7.4 warning 1.7.5 and 1.7.6 Note 1.8 Email 1.9 Dove 1.10 Answer 1.11 Cherokee Slang 1.12 Brian Peppers 1.13 Pedophilia project 1.14 Talk:Brian Peppers 1.15 Wiki-rehab? 1.16 Canned caveat 1.17 Iamblichus 1.18 Springtime 1.19 Chinese 1.20 Note 1.21 Thanks 1.22 Uge its me again 2 March 2006 2.1 Sam Eisen 2.2 Lovely 2.3 Computer envy 2.4 Re: Some Happy Knowledge 2.5 Tourism in Uzbekistan 2.6 Iamblichus part 2 electric boogaloo 2.7 This and that 2.8 Bigfoot 2.9 Who? 2.10 This and that II 2.11 Speedy deletion 2.12 Devil's Rejects 2.13 HMAS 2.14 butt out 2.15 AID Redux 2.16 It survived 2.17 Roma people won! 2.18 Hydrosphere is Science Collaboration 2.19 Categories and projects 2.20 Rfa 2.21 Alleged morning funny 2.22 Blanking 2.23 User:SuggestBot/Requests 2.24 Funny farm 2.25 Looking for articles to work on? 2.26 Yeah, not the best recommendations for either of you. 2.27 w00t 2.28 Thanks 2.29 AWWWWWWWWWWWW lol 2.30 Checkup needed 2.31 Today's Fun 2.32 More fun

[edit] February 2006

[edit] Synchronize our watches...

Copied your comments and my reply here.

We really need chat for some of these discussions. This message wait-and-run stuff is just driving me mad. --DanielCD 03:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I know. Especially when I have to hunt for your messages like easter eggs : ) FloNight ^talk 03:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

DanielCD, I left the other discussion where it was. We need to synchronize our watches or something.

I'm going to do some serious work on child sexual offender and child sexual abuse articles and categories. In a week or so, I might start removing some articles without proper references. Hold them in my user subpage and urge other editors to work on them. They don't need to be deleted; they need sources and to be fact checked. I'm going to announce it on the email list and elsewhere. If I announce it first, I hope it won't be seen as WP:POINT. FloNight ^talk 17:19, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'm trying to get away from this subject matter. But it looks like I was right in saying shit sticks. --DanielCD 02:09, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I get confused too easy to have discussions on two pages. : ) I'm going to stick to answering on my page for now. FloNight ^talk 02:49, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Societal attitudes towards homosexuality

Just so you know ahead of time, I'm not an admin, that having been said: I don't think that Speedy keep would be the best for this particular AFD. Although the current concensus is for a Keep, and some users suggesting Strong Keep, there haven't been too many calls for a Speedy Keep. Taking into account that it's a controversial topic, and it's getting a few Delete votes from non newusers/sockpupets, I'd suggest letting the AFD run it's course.

But again, I'm not an admin :-P That's my user opinion :-) Cheers! --lightdarkness ^(talk) 05:37, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey, "Admin" ain't nothin' but a shiny bell. --DanielCD 05:43, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Hehe, I'm flattered that you value my AFD opinion. I'll read indepth on the nomination tomorrow, and post a comment/vote there, but as for now I must head to sleep. Cheers! --lightdarkness ^(talk) 05:45, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nirvana and Dzogchen

I'll check it out. Have you followed the WebEx and Min Zhu arb comm case? It got interesting again, after I thought everything had settled down. We have an old/new editor advocating for the Larvatus, the editor that is being banned. Says that he has been to the courthouse and read the case files. Very strange last minute situation. This person's only previous edit was putting the original unsourced allegations of child rape and corporate cover-up in the article. That was last May, I think. Oh, and Larvatus showed up and made comments the same night. For the first time in weeks. I thought when the arb case was over we could finish the article quickly. Never dull around this place.

I've been thinking about what you wrote earlier. We need to be practical about the situation, I think. (That is one of my life phil.- When in doubt do the practical thing : ) There are conflicting values and ideals in the project. They are impossible to resovle. So by thinking practial you can put these conflicts aside. Defining the practical is usually easier for me. Does any of this make since to you? If not, I sure it is my fault not yours. Sometimes I confuse myself! FloNight ^talk 05:39, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Create

You sent me to destroy

Yet I create.

Today, I remembered that you suggested the article Neoplatonism and Gnosticism for deletion? Oops! Do you know this topic? I'm going to take the PROD tag off later today, I think. Don't you go and delete it. : ) I saw your name on LoveMonkey's user page. Some kind of editing conflict? Were you warring or mediating? FloNight ^talk 19:13, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Someone else took the PROD tag off Neoplatonism and Gnosticism I was going to do it later today, anyway. Trouble is in the air. There is conflict starting on the talk page. Spilling over from some that you edited/mediated. Plotinus and others. I can keep order but no expertise in the topic. DanielCD, are you a philosopher? A degree in philosophy? FloNight ^talk 01:36, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crime cats

That is the way I came to child sexual offender. Starting in mid Dec., I surveyed all the crime cats. I started with cannibalism! Fraud, rape, murder. I still do some every few days. FloNight ^talk 01:46, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Currently, I'm taking people out of (category:bisexual actors) if not properly applied. The category is up for deletion. Could go either way. I voted to delete. Mostly because it has no criteria. I suggested criteria on talk page, and began removing them. FloNight ^talk 01:56, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disputes vs vandal wacking

Tonight you're vandal wacking. that's good. Warring is problematic. Misuse of rollback by FCYTravis Being right can still get you in hot water. FloNight ^talk 04:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

We need an organized patrol for sexual and criminal categories. Lot's of weird stuff there. So far, not one (Category:Bisexual actors) article that I've checked has sources to support claim of Bisexuality. Don't want to start fight. What do I do except remove text (if any) to talk page and remove category? FloNight ^talk 05:01, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

For organized patrol? Stuff that vandals and well-meaning, but misguided, editors put in such articles. Criminal and sexual-related categories get a lot of this weird stuff.

I sent you an email that night (or was it morning). At the time I said I did. I did it through the E-mail this user. Is your account set with your email address? I started to look around for your address online but thought you might be sick of everything Wikipedia. FloNight ^talk 05:16, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Way to go Jimbo! I think some people aretrying to bring it back already. DRV had a Brian Peppers listing today. FloNight ^talk 05:34, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Man what a comedy. --DanielCD 05:39, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anon's "comments"

[edit] read it for yourself

http://www.time.com/time/daily/newsfiles/waco/031593.html

BTW those cops who died at Waco didn't shoot themselves.

[edit] ok

time to stop trolling danny

[edit] IF

you enjoy sex with males then you are gay.

what's debatable about that?

[edit] warning

Please stop removing content from Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. 132.241.245.49 01:50, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Harassment#Wikistalking

Stalking is not an issue when you are generating the action. --DanielCD 01:53, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] and

who is following who around?

I don't know. I'm busy trying to undo all the damage you've done and not paying any real attention to you. Here you are following me around, dropping silly messages and undoing my work. You're attention is focused on me. What's wrong with this picture. --DanielCD 04:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Note

• User:132.241.245.132 = User:132.241.245.4

• Indefinite block on 132.241.245.49 + Page

[edit] Email

The email didn't come through yet. I've gotten 4-5 emails over the last hour, so my account is working. Could still come through. FloNight ^talk 05:42, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Testing 4, 5, 6. It came through. FloNight ^talk 05:47, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

The email I sent you was very short. Nothing profound, for sure. Hope you didn't mind me editing your user talk page the day after the Peppers incident. I think I took off something I wrote. Can't remember what? I don't like to mess with other people's user talk pages. FloNight ^talk 05:57, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Not important. I replied to the email. --DanielCD 14:13, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dove

Dove could be our mascot. Sounds nice, but I'm afraid we'd be shot out of the sky!

Jealous of your knowledge of philosophy. I know sociology, anthropology, communication theory, and behavioral medicine. Lacking in philosophy. Hmmm, wondering where could locate information on philosophy? FloNight ^talk 21:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Answer

Moved here.

No, just go slow. There is already 2 maybe 3 people suggesting big policy changes. Some changes are needed. This place needs stability, though. While in arb comm case, I noticed some patterns to problems. Project needs more structure in the middle where the most active people work. More about that later. FloNight talk 00:25, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I read my comment above about the dove. I understand why you thought I was against it. No, I wasn't using a literary device to signal my disapproval. Just talking about the dove. FloNight ^talk 02:09, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I like the SNAP box. Kind of a fair warning. FloNight ^talk 02:38, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cherokee Slang

Dan,

Would you consider changing your vote on Cherokee Slang if I agree to transwiki the content or move it (well some of it anyway -- it's very terse and blunt about what it refers to) to Cherokee Language? Please consider saving it, it's accurate and one of a king content. Waya sahoni 05:08, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brian Peppers

What is going on? FloNight ^talk 01:27, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Glad it is calming down. Some people are looking for a fight. With Jimbo! That is insanity. FloNight ^talk 01:39, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

okay, on the page? FloNight ^talk 01:53, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pedophilia project

I put some ideas down on the pedophilia project page. Trying to explain my thoughts there. FloNight ^talk 01:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Brian Peppers

If you have something to say, say it. I'm a big boy. My email address works. If you think "END OF DISCUSSION" is a good way to build consensus and work together to make a great encyclopaedia, I can assure you anything you write to me will meet with a warm reception. Grace Note 01:53, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Grace Note, can you let it go for now. FloNight ^talk 02:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Yawwwwn !! Where's my Beer? Good grief man just start a new section and move on. --DanielCD 01:59, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Make the last time you call me a "troll" when I am engaged in a civil discussion. I don't know why you want the discussion about deleting content closed down. I'm not sure of your agenda. I don't really care. But I do care that you personally attack me. Please don't do it again. Grace Note 02:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't think you are my enemy. To the best of my recollection, we've only ever had civil discourse and I was taken aback to have you personally attacking me. I'm more than happy to consider the matter entirely closed. Grace Note 03:10, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki-rehab?

Do you need to go to wiki-rehab? FloNight ^talk 21:25, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

The lists and categories around this place are out of control! FloNight ^talk 22:23, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Almost impossible to get rid of them, too. I think they are still fighting over the Vice-president cats, the DC hunting accident ones. FloNight ^talk 22:27, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Let someone else sort it out. I'm going fishing. --DanielCD 22:44, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Very good answer. Maybe there is hope for you, after all. FloNight ^talk 22:47, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canned caveat

Canned caveat: This message is solely my opinion and not a license for anyone to go off in a rage and insult me. If it offends you to the point that you feel the need to lash out, just ignore it and go on. It's not that important.

I like it. The really snarly people won't pay attention. But might stop some people that shoot-off their mouth for no real reason. About half the time, I think disputes start that way. Then nobody wants to back down. Some of the arguments are about next to nothing. FloNight ^talk 01:22, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Cabal?

I've been checking out new pages. Wow, some s-c-a-r-y stuff. Talk:Anti-Ahari No sources. I moved most of the article text to the talk page. And removed an image. FloNight ^talk 01:43, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Last user page message was signed 'cheers'. Then the cabal box? What happened in between? --FloNight 03:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Can't argue with much of that. --FloNight 03:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Why is LoveMonkey fussing at you? --FloNight 03:47, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

So Happy! Finally. Closed. Even got a last minute clarificaton of the banned articles. [1] --FloNight 05:20, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Iamblichus

Since you never really responded to my question about Iamblichus. Here is a link to the material I was referring to. Hey maybe you already have it but just in case. Watchout it's anti-gnosticism. Theurgy and the Soul: The Neoplatonism of Iamblichus (Paperback) by Gregory Shaw LoveMonkey 01:39, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Springtime

You lucky so'n'so! They're threatening us with snow here . . . MPF 20:21, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Sort of white stuff, falls out of the sky. Doesn't happen here very often so I don't remember it very well, but there's more info on it here ;-) MPF 21:05, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

My fav --FloNight 20:45, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Sometimes I like to read the articles. I had to clean up a mess that one of the parties in WebEx and Min Zhu case made. I had to read about round-tripping, and all the corporations that the SEC is investigation. I haven't kept up with the corporate fraud stuff for months. Kinda killing two birds with one stone.

DanielCD, is reading Chinese one of your many talents? --FloNight 21:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese

Drats! I need to research Min Zhu, a Chinese national. He grew up in China, spent time in work camps, then during the 1980's came to US to study. Started Webex in US and is now living in China, again. He is on the list of 200 richest people in China. I bet there's lots of articles written about him in Chinese newspapers.

Have you been to Mammoth Cave? --FloNight 21:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry about the Chinese stuff. I need to expand the Min Zhu article so it is not overwhelmed by criticism and controversy. I'll figure it out. --FloNight 21:37, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I noticed that you wrote about it in the shrimp article. (Told'ya I read articles) Mammoth Cave is amazing. It mammoth! Lot's of caves in KY. I grew up near Carter Caves. Big fight in Lexington Ky now about a big cave under the city. In the past, the cave was open to select people for exploration by the owner of the property. A horse farm, duh! Then the farm sold the property to developers. They won't let anyone to have access to it. Or course, it has rare species in it. More important to have access to monitor what development does. The usual fights.

I read a few of your rock and fossil articles. Very interesting stuff. I don't blame you for wanting to write about them instead of pedophiles. : ) --FloNight 22:56, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Category:Pro-Roman Catholic Movies What?? Who decides? Trying not to bring this stuff to you. But this was too, too POV for you to miss! --FloNight 00:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Note

fralalala ... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.49.208.141 (talk • contribs).

la... la la la laaaaaah.... --DanielCD 15:06, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Glad somebody appreciates me! ;o) --Zeraeph 15:05, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uge its me again

Still wanted to know if you would like me to sub to you (somehow) more stuff on Pythagoras. Or any ol' platoist? LoveMonkey 18:00, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] March 2006

[edit] Sam Eisen

I noticed that you proposed deletion of the Sam eisen, and restored the tag after it was removed. I went ahead and changed it to speedy, since it seems to easily fit the CSD A7 criteria, but now I see you're an admin. So I wanted to notify you, and also ask for my own edification,
A. why you prod'ed it rather than speedy, and

B. why restore the tag after it was removed (which I understood to be not in the spirit of the prod tag)?

I am certainly not questioning your judgement, but merely confused. I apologize if I made a mistake here. Thanks, --Hansnesse 01:32, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Gotcha, thanks! --Hansnesse 03:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lovely

Moved text.

Check out the gory, unwikified execution details --> Allen Lee Davis. --DanielCD 14:18, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Also:Check out the pics on the talk page of the Allen Lee Davis article. --DanielCD 14:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Lovely! And very encyclopedic, too. No pov pushing, I sure. : ) Same people that howl about sexual content, put this stuff in WP. FloNight ^talk 14:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Awsome. Dump it all here if you don't want it on your page. --DanielCD 14:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

THIS IS PRICELESS! Technically-speaking, the Sunday services of such churches are not really church services, but this is not largely advertised, nor does it keep the church from collecting the vast majority of its donations from such services.

Technically-speaking? What does that mean?!? --FloNight 14:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Ha. Gatta love it. --DanielCD 14:46, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

By the way, Technically-speaking, I didn't really move it. I copied it. I don't mind this stuff on my page.

User:FloNight's user page is not censored for minors or serious-intellectuals.

How's that for a tag line? FloNight ^talk 14:55, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Computer envy

DanielCD!!! How did you bet me to the animated computer? I'm jealous! It's better than my traffic round. (_{pouting pouting pouting pouting pouting}).

You need to listen to your head and your heart. Together they make you a wonderful person. Maybe you will kinda take a few days off here and there to de-stress. That is a good thing. Shows you are a wise person. : ) FloNight 01:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Your redaction is fine. Pretty sure I've done something similar on your talk page. : ) Thank you for working with Jabez. He seems like a decent guy. Tourism in Uzbekistan needs work to make it less pov and use WP style. Have you read the rest of the articles in the tourism categoy. They all are somewhat pov. If we use them as a guide, we don't have as far to go! Green with envy over your new pet computer. FloNight ^talk 14:26, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Some Happy Knowledge

Oops, sorry about that. When on rc patrol, an unannotated edit by an anonymous editor changing something to "gay" almost automatically triggers the revert function because it's so frequently used as a pejorative by vandalous schoolboys. If I'd looked at the talk page (or perhaps if the editor had used the edit summary box) I would have let it stand. "Merry" is certainly a more accurate translation today. It's too bad that shifting semantics have totally changed the meaning of the original translation, but I agree that if it's widely known by the original translation of the title, that's how it should referred to in the article. --Kbh3^rdtalk 17:30, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tourism in Uzbekistan

I made some changes on ma page Tourism in Uzbekistan. Would you, please be so kind to check it. And thank you for encouragement at difficult time! ---Jabez 11:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Welcome to Wikipedia! --DanielCD 14:10, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Iamblichus part 2 electric boogaloo

Hey Mr D-CD I have somehow managed to obtain the help of Dr Edward Moore. He is a brother in the Greek faith a lover of things Greek and one hell of a brilliant cat. Check out his site...Its out of sight and D-Y-N-O-M-I-T-E. www.theandros.com/emoore Hey I love this guy! Have fun Mr D-CD. LoveMonkey 13:49, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This and that

Hope Hazy Moon Zen Center is safe. Could you check the most recent edits to Neoplatonism and Gnosticism (last few paragraphs). I voted for Mussel, seems a worthy topic.

Zzzzzz! Falling asleep reading SEC regs and WebEx annual reports. Must go through hundreds of pages of BS to find anything useful. I found what I need to expand, I think. Might turn out to be a decent article after all. FloNight ^talk 14:41, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

And also: I ruthlessly reverted your last edit at Junk DNA. If you have a question on it, feel free to revert my revert of your revert to his last revert that reverted my first revert. :P --DanielCD 02:32, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

If I revert your last revert to his last revert that reverted your first revert, your screwed because you have already reverted your allotted three reverts for the day. You'd have to sit in your secretspot and pout. --FloNight 03:42, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bigfoot

Welcome back. Like the Devil and Daniel Webster. True, the intro is a mess and it must be made clear that Bigfoot is not a proven zoological species, but is tentative, and unproven. But the search goes on for evidence. The extreme LENGTH of this search leads researchers, with or without PhDs, to speculate that there may be a"Plan C" where the beings may be neither hoax, (too many sightings[some made by us- see Wiki article on Experts in Wiki] for that) nor zoological (no body) but instead may be a theoretical space-time creature. This has not yet been stated. It needs to be. Skeptical editors can relax and know that skeptics are correct, there is no zoological Bigfoot nor Yeti. But there is something else. This is being ignored and swept under the rug. Always remember that with no official funding, "mainstream" science has no positive opinion on the topic, and the work goes on by unpaid PhDs and many amateurs, and one paid non-academic.

Now, we, the Six, on the BF Edit Committee in Berkeley, will edit and re edit, and revert until the end of time to get the true and correct word out to readers. We will NOT go away. Editors would be well-advised to work with our suggestions, since we know the literature and most editors never cracked a book. They, except one or two, do not kow squat on the topic, and most are lost in the theoretical quagmire. Most, it seems, are also uneducated. Daniel, welcome back.

Note:The role of expert editors "No original research" does not mean that experts on a specific topic cannot contribute to Wikipedia. On the contrary, Wikipedia welcomes experts. We assume, however, that someone is an expert not only because of their personal and direct knowledge of a topic, but because of their knowledge of published sources on a topic. This policy prohibits expert editors from drawing on their personal and direct knowledge if such knowledge is unverifiable. If an expert editor has published the results of his or her research elsewhere, in a reputable publication, the editor can cite that source while writing in the third person and complying with our NPOV policy. They must cite publications, and may not use their unpublished knowledge as a source of information (which would be impossible to verify).

The skeptic-editors refuse to allow this policy, a Wiki policy.

The Six 205.208.227.46 18:33, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Who?

Gone! Who created Inf3rn0? --FloNight 16:20, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

It was created by User:Inf3rn0. Mushroom (Talk) 16:25, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Possible that it was a sting. Or a kid with poor english. Either way it needed to go. A lot of trash gets added and deleleted within minutes. Wonder what the millionth article REALLY was. FloNight 16:30, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Ha Ha! --FloNight 16:32, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

DanielCD, check out User talk:Jabez. What's up I wonder. User:84.54.70.6 --FloNight 16:47, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Seems like they had a specific problem. I was looking thru the history of the IP. I didn't see anything bad, YET! With us involved there has to be a problem, right. --FloNight 16:56, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

24.184.85.127 (Talk | contribs)

removing irrelevant, self-promoting addition by a troll.

I found the above added by 24.184.85.127 to an edit made by User:84.54.70.6. It was hotel and maps the best I can tell. Calling an newbie but established user a troll seems wrong! --FloNight 17:05, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

With us as character references, User talk:Jabez can't go wrong. He really does seem okay. I don't latch on to just anybody. I try to avoid trolls. --FloNight 17:13, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This and that II

DanielCD, what does this mean? *HMAS* ??? FloNight ^talk 00:09, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

This place is down-right weird! --FloNight 01:17, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Another new friend? Where do you meet your new friends? User talk:67.15.76.188 --FloNight 01:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I voted D for Stephen Colduck. Wikipedia is not --FloNight 02:01, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

WOW! What is going on? editing a IP addrss. There outa be a rule against that. Probably is, you think? --FloNight 02:10, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Maybe 67.15.76.188 (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log) is ill tempered because he ran out of revert edits at Pat Tillman? He was out manned. He was taking out what looks like well cited material. --FloNight 02:29, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion

Hi DanielCD, if you tag an article for speedy deletion it is automatically added to Category:Candidates for speedy deletion. I and other administrators monitor this category to delete those articles. See also Wikipedia:Speedy deletions. Mushroom (Talk) 16:24, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Devil's Rejects

All it was was a bunch of people going "Teh movie sux, why is there an article". ITs pointless. So I'm removing.--CyberGhostface 19:22, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HMAS

I am having a slight problem and don't know even if this is the right area to be posting this however, someone registered under the name Hmas or through an unknown IP address have been posting incorrect information about the official site Heavy Metal Appreciation Society at www.HMAS.org. The links have been added and deleted because someone registered under the username or IP address and using a e-mail address from our administrator and have changed it to be offensive to other sites. The real user name is HMAS under a different e-mail address not the webmasters. I don't know how to stop this person from dragging our name through the mud especially when the username is very close. Please help us investigate this problem and if possible delete posts from this user or block them from changing anything, Our site is official and does not want to put any other site down for their work. We are beginning to receive nasty e-mails from other web administrators regarding the changes that were not officially done or where a simple link was origianally posted and description changed to something offensive later. We would be very happy to continue to use wikipedia as a source for our webzine, however, it's not worth the risk if disgruntled people are changing our information and forcing us into a position to possibly close our site. Please get back to me about this problem and if there is anything that can be done. The username HMAS all in caps is the official username. HMAS 21:20, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

In regards to your question on my talk page. It's hard to tell really, just that a link to our site Heavy Metal Appriciation Society www.hmas.org is at the bottom of some link pages then is gone then added again later by someone else and then deleted. I received a message earlier today that alerted me to the problem about our site slandering another website writing abilities through their editor in chief...... the next message was from an unknown person stating.

Personal message: > >"I keep adding your URL to wikipedia.org and the guy from the****tlet.com keeps removing it. Like you can only have one link!!! People are stupid. Please make sure your link stays on the heavy metal page"

(**** to protect the website.)

I attempted to contact this person however, the e-mail is invalid; looks more like it could be a spammer.

When I searched the History of the editing of the Heavy metal pages I came across the user name Hmas and a bunch of times as well as repeated IP addresses, our link as well as others were added and then deleted like 5 minutes later by an IP address then added by one and other links deleted, ours added on an on. I checked out the Hmas user page and it looks like whoever this is has been warned for spamming and unorthodox postings once already as for the IP addresses I'm not sure.

We at HMAS.org would love to have our page listed on wikipedia and DO NOT condone the practice of slander or assaulting rival websites...We get many hits from all over the heavy metal/death metal/etc. sections and think Wikipedia is a valuable resource to us as well as other websites.Josette 03:23, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] butt out

don't delete talk page comments 67.15.76.188 01:47, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Uh... Why are you telling me this? I didn't revert any talk page comments. ?? --DanielCD 01:50, 5 March 2006

[edit] AID Redux

• You suggested that we have two AIDs. There is currently a vote going on for just that. May I be allowed to interprit your suggestion as a vote in favor? -Litefantastic 00:51, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I see. Thank you! -Litefantastic 17:29, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] It survived

Hazy Moon Zen Center survived Afd, at least for now. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hazy Moon Zen Center. WP needs better criteria for religous institutions and building. Having a web site is not a particularly good mark of the importance for most everything in the real world.

I've been busy writing articles today. Okay, not articles, mostly Kentucky college stubs. Need to get rid of the red links on the Kentucky page. Going throgh the child sexual offender category AGAIN. This time I'm finding sources for the offenders without sources. Put unref tag on a month ago. Figure the sources aren't going to ^jump on the articles by themselves.

Pornography addiction is a MESS. Ideologue James Dobson is quoted heavily. Someone that thinks porn is evil, period. Says that porn causes people to View the opposite sex as sex objects. I'm GUESSING that's the reason that someone looks at porn in the first place. So how does porn cause it? Wonder what Dobson thinks of Wikipedia is not censored for children policy?

Enough ranting for now. FloNight 02:12, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Roma people won!

[edit] Hydrosphere is Science Collaboration

You voted for Gene and this article is now the current Science Collaboration of the Month! Please help to improve it to match the quality of an ideal Wikipedia science article.

Please also spread the word about, and vote for, next week's collaboration, as we have a three-way tie at two votes each!

Samsara (talk • contribs) 15:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categories and projects

Wikipedia:WikiProject Neopaganism To each is own.

Yesterday, I read somewhere that a category is not part of an article and need not reflect the factual consensus editing of the article. Instead it is a navigational tool. This was suppose to be a statement from an arbitration case finding. Need to think about this more.

The same I guess as making re-direct pages for the many names that a subject of an article may have or the common mispelling of of certain words.

Does this apply to classifying people. If many people think about someone in the context of a rapist and would look for them in that category, should they be there even if they were acquitted of the crime or charges were never brought? Does this fit with WP:BLP. I need to read the finding. FloNight ^talk15:48, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Instead it is a navigational tool.

This is what I've been saying all along. Yet it can still create POV. --DanielCD 16:38, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Then there is no legitamate reason for excluding Graham Rix. He should, should, should (a triple should, now that's moralizing!) be in the category. One of these days, I'm going to work on TRix article; expand the section on his conviction, the controversy about his hiring, and put the child sex offender cat back on. It is well documented in newspaper articles and evidently was debated by publicly by people associated with his team. It's not a priority for me, bottom of the list.

The Andrea Yates case touches on so many issues. (Category:Child killer) seems too simplistic. Looking through the history, someone keeps putting on (category:mass murderer). I thouht we had a category for this topic. Infanticide and Filicide. Yates is listed in the filicide article. It is not very reader friendly term. This biography is weak to be a current topic. I think I'm going to work on it. I'm going to start with good references. Something the article is lacking. FloNight ^talk 17:46, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Is Grahram Rix primarily known as a CSO? --DanielCD 17:55, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

To me, he is. : ) I never heard of him before. After his conviction and the widespread coverage, how do you decide? Avid football fans will have one opinion. Child advocacy groups will have a different one. The general public, I don't know. You can't unring the bell. Once the person's name is associated with being a CSO, it sticks. When famous people do something that the public considers unseemly, they have to live with it for life. Forever, Woody Allen will be associated will his relations Soon-Yi Previn, Mia Farrow's adopted daughter. Below is from his article. {The bold emphasis is mine}

In 1992, Allen's personal life became very public, when he left his long-term partner Farrow after she stumbled across an envelope containing nude polaroid photographs Allen had taken of her adopted daughter Soon-Yi Previn. Allen has defended his actions, saying that he never lived with her mother Mia Farrow. The revelation had a very negative impact on Allen's reputation and career, and he has not had a considerable large hit film since the revelation. In a 2005 Vanity Fair interview, Allen described their relationship as having a "more paternal feeling." Allen and Soon-Yi married in 1997 and later adopted two daughters, naming both (Bechet Allen and Manzie Tio Allen) after jazz musicians (Sidney Bechet and Manzie Johnson). FloNight 18:27, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

OK you dont have to convince me. I'm just not sure what all that former debate was about now. But I'm not about to get back into it. --DanielCD 18:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, just thinking outloud. : ) I'll do it somewhere else, if it bothers you. FloNight ^talk 19:15, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rfa

I've been nominated to be a Admin myself. Any advice ? Martial Law 06:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC) :)

• Hide. Herostratus 23:39, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alleged morning funny

Category:Targets of alleged Bush Administration reprisals I like the way that alleged nails this topic down. Does this make blogs and tabloids WP:RS? FloNight ^talk 11:19, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Category:Friends guest stars You don't have to agree with me. I don't think the nominator gave a good reason for deleting this category. FloNight ^talk 11:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blanking

Hell no! I guess the nice police are watching us, or rather me. FloNight ^talk 15:34, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Courtesy replacing, ha, ha. : ) FloNight ^talk 15:42, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:SuggestBot/Requests

DanielCD, if you are at loose ends. User:SuggestBot/Requests FloNight ^talk 17:13, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Funny farm

DanielCD look at bot picked FloNight list. It is sending me to the most controversial articles on WP. Crazy. FloNight ^talk 13:02, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Leasepay ebay arefulcay! Otbay uggestedsay IACay. --FloNight 22:17, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Looking for articles to work on?

Hello, DanielCD. I'm SuggestBot, a Wikipedia bot that helps new members contribute to Wikipedia. You might like to edit these articles I picked for you based on things you've edited in the past. Check it out -- I hope you find it useful. -- SuggestBot 14:32, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yeah, not the best recommendations for either of you.

FYI I'm looking into SuggestBot's tendency to pick controversial articles. It uses similar editing behavior (if two people both "A" and "B", and person 2 has edited "C", then person 1 might get "C" as a recommendations) when making some suggestions. I think with people who've edited a lot it's picking up on vandalism reversion and that causes it to find lots of other pages that get vandalized to recommend. Sigh. We didn't see this before because we built and tested it mostly on newer editors (I thought it might be a nice tool to draw people into editing).

If you have any suggestions, I'd love to hear them. -- ForteTuba 18:05, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] w00t

Hi Dannnnniel what's going on! Haven't seen you for a while. just catching up on this-n-that... going back a ways...

• Yeah SamSpade was only replying because he had been a member of WikiProkect Sex and Sexology (or whatever its called). He's busy with other stuff. (I saw that he went up for admin and got shot down too, dunno what that's about.)
• Operational definition I never did get to, because... because... so lazy... must.... sleeeeeep. Sorry! Thanks for asking though.
• I'm finally actually working over a major article, Child sexuality. Man. This is hard work, sheesh. I'm much better at stuff that... isn't hard. But I found out I can get a bunch of stuff on-line through my library and even the Boston Public, woo-hoo! Now I can finish life at home in my spare time! There's just so much material, sheesh. I gotta get my hands on a copy of Rind et at (1983), but I think I have a way to do that too.
• Actually Joey Q McC has been doing yeoman work in the field on that article and a ton of stuff. Guy is gold.

Carry on buddy! Herostratus 23:51, 8 March 2006 (UTC) P.S. Charmmy Kitty??

[edit] Thanks

Here's a userbox for you. --Cyde Weys 04:29, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWWWWWWWWWWWW lol

Image:Charmmy kitty.jpg This user has been assigned the Charmmy Kitty article by SuggestBot. Isn't that just too sweet?

Herostratus

[edit] Checkup needed

I tried to revert vandalizm earlier on Shottie as User:212.219.11.30 was caught vandalizing today. But since the last edits were a couple days ago it in retrospect it could have been a different user. Since the article was rather a mess anyway and I am rather unsure about druguser terminology I reverted my revert. But it might need another look at by someone else. (And you came to mind as one of the first admins I ran into when joining wiki) Agathoclea 20:42, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, looks like you are getting a big broom onto the article :-) Agathoclea 21:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Today's Fun

I'm not sure where to begin. It still seems to give advise or encourage use. Should you prod it?

Also: "Meatpuppet" is a new one for me. What is it? --DanielCD 21:42, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

A Meat puppet is a variation of a sock puppet; a new internet community member account is created by another person at the request of a user solely for the purposes of influencing the community on a given issue or issues. While less overtly deceptive than sock puppetry, the effect of meat puppetry and sock puppetry on the community as a whole may be similar. (From Internet sock puppet). FloNight talk 21:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Yea, now I think I remember reading about that. I've encountered things like this several times, just never applied the term. --DanielCD 21:55, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Editor AA is not happy with me. I suggested she remove several of her proposed finding in an arb case. Out of the clear blue sky, she accused several parties in an arb case of being sock or meat puppets. I thought it was WP:POINT, since they had accused her of the same weeks ago. Examples she used didn't seem plausible. She thinks I'm taking sides. I'm not. She didn't take my advice so the other parties are accusing her of a bad faith proposed finding and using me to back them up. Of course, what I think doesn't matter. The arb comm will decide. FloNight ^talk 22:38, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More fun

Beckjord announces that he is a skeptic of the Bigfoot animal.

x

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.208.227.46 (talk • contribs).(Beckjord)

Awsome. You are the best! --DanielCD 19:44, 10 March 2006 (UTC)