Talk:Danzan Ryu
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Actually the 'sport' version of DZR is governed by AJJF. But the main branch of DZR that focuses solely on application and taught from Profs. Okazaki and Kufferaths direct notes is governed by Kodenkan Jujutsu in Santa Clara, CA. ytf
Actually there are ten or more branches of Danzan, including ones in Costa Rica and Europe
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[edit] Changed definition to Honolulu
A quick linguistic note: The character 檀 actually means sandalwood, not cedar. 檀山 (Pinyin: tánshān) actually means Honolulu, not Hawaii (夏威夷, Pinyin: xiàwēiyí). In modern Chinese, it is more commonly written "檀香山" (Pinyin: tánxiāng shān). However, 檀山 is still used. A-cai 06:18, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] BJJ More Popular Than Danzan Ryu?
I believe Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is more popular in the United States than Danzan Ryu. A quick google search shows 1,050,000 hits for BJJ and 30,800 for DR. Amazon.com shows 32 books for BJJ and nothing for DR. Since there is no conclusive proof either way, I am removing that phrase from this article and not inserting it into BJJ article. - Jimmy C. 22:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Christian JuJitsu
Master Okazaki was one of the few Asian martial arts masters who converted from Buddhism and Shinto to Christianity. This is well documented. The first person to state this on multiple occasions was Prof. Bud Estes, a founder of the AJJF. Hachiro Okazaki told the Okazaki Biographical Reasearch Team in 1978 and it is on tape and in their notes. Esther Takamoto, Okazaki's daughter, also verified it. In fact she testified that every Sunday, Okazaki would tuck his Bible under his arm and walk to church. This is also on tape and in the official notes.
Prof. Estes in his private teaching of the "Okugi" with Prof. Edwards was explicit that these "arts" are from Christ and the Holy Bible. One of the first assignments Prof. Estes gave to Prof. Edwards and Prof. Ball was to read the book of Matthew in the Holy Bible, underline the miracles, and be prepared to discuss them at the next meeting.
[edit] Namba Shoshin Ryu, Iwagu Ryu, & Kosogabe Ryu
The wikipedia article repeats the oft-quoted (within Danzan Ryu circles) history that Okazaki returned to Japan in the 1920's and "underwent a study of the various schools, or 'ryu' of the most popular Jujutsu styles of the times: Yoshin Ryu, Namba-shoshin Ryu, Iwaga Ryu, Kosogabe Ryu, Kodokan Judo and several others." Kodokan judo and Yoshin Ryu are well known, but what about the other three? Nobody seems to have heard of these (except self-referentially when talking about the arts Okazaki studied). I think somebody either needs to find out more about these three styles of jujitsu or at least note in a footnote that essentially nothing seems to be known (at least in the West) about these three arts. To claim they are a major part of the foundation of Danzan Ryu with absolutely no evidence they existed (other than Okazaki saying they did) seems inadequote for wikipedia. Jrdx 20:20, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
