Talk:Danionin

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ToL-wise and title-wise, this article seems kind of confused - it seems not to be about a genus, or subfamily, or anything. If it's just about "danionins", then it should be titled "Danionin". Stan 14:05, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi Stan, youv'e opened a can of worms with that:-) - The page was originally called Danio and had about 8 fish. All of these were in the "Danio" genus when the page was written, however circa 2002 the Ichthyologist Fang Fang in a paper erected the "Genus" Devario and discovered that fish in several other genuses were closer to the Danio/Devario Genuses than previously realised. Unfortunately people persist in calling many of the species "Danio" XXX instead of "Devario" XXX including most web site. Hence my decision to change the name. Danioninae is rapidly gaining acceptance as a subfamily within Cyprinidae comprising the Danios, Devarios etc, which were previously in Rasboriniae. Danionins is starting to replace the (now inaccurate in many cases) use of "Danios" as the commonly used expression for this group of fish among ichthyologists but has still to filter through to much of the public. Many devario species still have Danio in their common name [eg Devario Regina is Queen Danio]
So yes, strictly speaking you are correct and Danionin or Danioninae should be the correct name, but so many people have not yet heard of the phrase that it seemed sensible for the two main genuses to be listed in the title. Danio, Devario and Danionin all redirect to the page.
HTH Kerripaul 18:10, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
OK, thanks! - let's go with just "Danionin" then. In general, when situations are messy like this, we tend to prefer a simpler title and rely on the lead para to explain to people surprised by redirs or whatever. If nothing else, it makes linking from elsewhere easier. Stan 20:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Ok, Ill do it. All those double redirects to do again sigh ;-() Kerripaul 21:06, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
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