Talk:Dan Richey
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- Tone of voice should be encyclopedic and in accordance to WP:BLP
Unless the above is implemented, I will stubify the article in a few days. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 02:37, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Notable?
Should this really be on Wikipedia? This article seems like a vanity article about a small-time local politico.
[edit] Comments
Following comments were placed on article page. Moved to Talk page --Bookgrrl 02:12, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
This article was edited Wednesday afternoon and reduced in length by some 18 percent. Mr. Richey was elected to the state legislature at 27 and the state Senate at 31. He is a political consultant at this time. He held an important administrative post in the Foster gubernatorial administration. He meets the test of notability just by being in the legislature. The fact that his hometown has fewer than 4,000 people should not cause this article to be deleted because he had as many constituents as any other legislator when he was serving. He should not be condemned as a "small-town politician." He now lives in Baton Rouge and has had a varied career and has had some impact on LA history: legalization of home schooling, helping to kill the ERA in 1976, working for the right-to-work law, and electing David Vitter to the Senate in 2004. He is also a member of the Republican State Central Committee. The article could have been reduced if the sources had been listed under "References" and not with the specific paragraph or topic. That's because repetition of some sources adds to the length. There are about a dozen references to Mr. Richey in other articles too. Thank you. ```Billy Hathorn```
I also object to the term "small time political operator." As to notability, any member or former member of a state legislature qualifies. Mr. Richey has served in both houses of the LA leg. as well as a gubernatorial administration. He is a well-known political consultant in Baton Rouge. This is not a "vanity" article as someone said. Mr. Richey did not write the article.
````Billy Hathorn````
I concur with Mr. Hathorn. As one who utilizes Wikipedia and the internet for extensive research on both major and lesser-known U.S. political figures, biographies presented such as this can be invaluable. I would hope to find many more such in-depth biographies for politicians great and small on this website. Please keep up the good work and allow this biography to stand.
````D.J. Jones````
Louisiana politics have always been the most interesting in America. Mainly because they have always been the most corrupt in America. It is refreshing to read about a Louisiana politician who seems to be on the "right" track for a change. Thanks for this article. PS I can think of a lot of other articles that should be deleted before this one. ````Kerry B.````
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This article should be edited so that the significance of the individual is clearly stated in the first paragraph (a synopsis).
I agree with the comments by D.J. Jones concerning the value of articles on persons who may not be widely known outside of their state or region but whom, nevertheless, have impacted the history of their state.
For more than 30 years I have engaged in research pertaining to right-wing individuals and organizations that were active in the first half of the 20th century. Because of media and scholarly disinterest, it is virtually impossible to find factual data on such personalities in normal sources. By contrast, there are numerous biographical dictionaries, obituary articles, books, magazine articles, and archival resources on LEFT-WING personalities but those resources, more often than not, do not exist for RIGHT-WING personalities, other than the national figures. Consequently, Wikipedia can serve as a uniquely important resource for research. 207.200.116.10 00:08, 23 September 2006 (UTC)Ernie1241207.200.116.10 00:08, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
I concur with Mr. Jones and Ernie1241. The great value of Wikipedia for me is its inclusiveness of sometimes obscure, regional, or cultural information. I am a self-proclaimed Independent and disagree with Dan Richey's idea of abstintous only education (I am a pragmatist), but I am delighted to read a well-written Wiki article about Mr. Richey's stance and how his political career and now, his input with policy have evolved. His work in the early 90's as a basketball coach also gives insight into this Louisiana politician.
Lousiana may not be the most corrupt state, but its political history is certainly colorful. Movies, like _All the King's Men_ that just came out testify to that! Certainly Dan Richey stands in contrast to Huey Long and others in LA. I think this article should be retained.
Suerickels
I think Ernie makes a very important point--the article should be edited to indicate Dan Richey's significance early on--a thesis or synopsis indicating his progression to his stance now. The article seems too long. Some of the details of Richey's political career could be omitted as could the chart at the end. More emphasis should be given to his signicant contributions while retaining the essentials of his biography.
Suerickels
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Dan Richey is linked to over a dozen Wikipedia articles, including Edwin Edwards, David C. Treen, John H. Cade, Jr., Louis E. "Woody" Jenkins, E. L. Henry, James H. "Jim" Brown, Ferriday, Louisiana, Baton Rouge, David Vitter, Murphy J. "Mike" Foster, Jr., Jock Scott, Edward G. "Ned" Randolph, Jr., Lane Carson, and the Council for National Policy.
User:Billy Hathorn 12:20 23 September 2006
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"Small-time local politico" is a demeaning term. All members of state legislatures in all states have roughly the same number of constituents. So a lawmaker from New Orleans has no more constituents than one from Ferriday. It's just that the one from Ferriday will have more territory to cover but an equal number of persons in the district than the representative from New Orleans.
User:Billy Hathorn 1:15 23 September 2006
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Mr. Richey is a public figure, not a private citizen, from the standpoint of libel law. He is someone generally recognized in the field of LA politics. Were he to sue for libel on a matter, he would be hamstrung by the fact that he is a "public figure".
Under notability, I was told some months ago that merely being in a state legislature meets Wikipedia's notability test.
User:Billy Hathorn 1:11 24 September 2006
I agree with Mr. Hathorn here. I think that the writer who saw this as a vanity article of a small time guy is out of sync with what Wikipedia does.
I also agree with Ernie above about the difficulty in finding information about pro-choice, right wing politicians that gives information in the objective tone of an encylopedia article.
Suerickels
