Talk:Daewoo Gentra
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[edit] Merge
In its current form, the Daewoo Kalos article covers the Gentra in its entirety, including all information contained here. As the Gentra is actually a mid-life faclift of the Kalos, I believe that keeping them in one article would be much more convenient for both the readers and editors. Bravada, talk - 19:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- As the Gentra is called Gentra in its home market, all information about that car should be in this article. And the Kalos article should only cover the Kalos. --Boivie 13:59, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- I absolutely and totally disagree. The "home market" rule is OK when it comes to naming articles, but this creates totally illogical divisions like the one here. The T250 is merely a facelifted T200, why don't we split the J200 and J250 then? By the same token, why don't we split the Simca 1307 into Talbot 1510 and Talbot Solara? The effect of such artifical divisions are totally confusing disambig pages like the former Chevrolet Aveo. I guess common sense should take precedence over some rules, which, again, pertain to the naming of the articles and not the structuring of them, IMHO. Reagrds, Bravada, talk - 14:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- The T250 is not a facelift of T200. The Gentra is a whole new car, a replacement for the Kalos. Merging the two articles is like merging Dodge Caliber with Dodge Neon, or Ford Focus with Ford Escort. Look under the hood, it's a new car, not a facelift. If it was a facelift, then why would they need PATAC to get involved? For engineering/design reasons, that's why. Keep the seperate articles, and fix up the Aveo article.
- Well, you are wrong. It is a facelift, just like when Opel Corsa B was turned into Chevy C2 in Mexico. Facelifts do not only mean moving a badge from one place to another - they usually encompass many engineering changes, not to mention that changing sheetmetal is an engineering change in itself. They are not done by Aunt Mabel between knitting and washing up, they are done by engineers. That is why PATAC was involved (and PATAC did the thing because a) they are cheap b) the car is a significant model in China too c) SAIC is also a shareholder of Daewoo, AFAIK). So, design and engineering centres are involved in every facelift.
- Per you examples - Neon and Caliber, as well as Escort and Focus, do not share platforms and most of the mechanicals, they are also not similar in body structure. The Gentra has the same body structure and platform as Aveo, perhaps modified, strenghtened, reengineered, you name it whatever you want, but it is still a refreshed version of the same car. Are you from PATAC? If not, I can email PATAC and ask them about the details they can provide.
- The T250 is not a facelift of T200. The Gentra is a whole new car, a replacement for the Kalos. Merging the two articles is like merging Dodge Caliber with Dodge Neon, or Ford Focus with Ford Escort. Look under the hood, it's a new car, not a facelift. If it was a facelift, then why would they need PATAC to get involved? For engineering/design reasons, that's why. Keep the seperate articles, and fix up the Aveo article.
- I absolutely and totally disagree. The "home market" rule is OK when it comes to naming articles, but this creates totally illogical divisions like the one here. The T250 is merely a facelifted T200, why don't we split the J200 and J250 then? By the same token, why don't we split the Simca 1307 into Talbot 1510 and Talbot Solara? The effect of such artifical divisions are totally confusing disambig pages like the former Chevrolet Aveo. I guess common sense should take precedence over some rules, which, again, pertain to the naming of the articles and not the structuring of them, IMHO. Reagrds, Bravada, talk - 14:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
