Talk:Curtiss JN-4
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Suggest merging into a single article on the Curtiss JN "Jenny" aircraft. The JN-2 and JN-3 were used operationally in Mexico during the Pancho Villa Expedition
- Vern Reisenleiter 20:35, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Personally, I am in favour of maintaining separate articles about each variant...Fawcett5 03:29, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
I think it's appropriate to merge the articles. They're essentially the same aircraft. We don't have separate articles for the P51-A through -F.
Sorry, should have done this before. Here is the proposed merged article. It gives a brief history of the JN series with emphasis on the JN-4. If there is no further objection, I will pull the two articles together on 5 Nov 2005. Vern Reisenleiter 17:37, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
I would suggest the title of this be changed to Curtiss Jenny, or perhaps Curtiss JN--but JN4 is misleading.--Buckboard 07:43, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] How to Fly a Jenny
Is this section really encyclopedic? I can understand a link to it, with the description of "popular bit of humour related to flying a Jenny" or something like that, but I'm not certain why it's included in the article itself. (And who exactly is the Sam Stites mentioned in it?) 156.34.221.174 23:59, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
I've removed it for the time being. Text is below, if anyone can think of a way to make it encyclopedic:
[edit] How to fly a Jenny
Common bit of Jenny lore (from the 20s or 30s?); attributed to Sam Stites. Source: Several web sites; it is referenced at the Jenny display of the Seattle Museum of Flight.
1. Inspection: It is best not to inspect this ship. If you do, you will never get into it.
2. Climbing into the cockpit: Do not attempt to enter the cockpit in the usual way. If you put your weight on the lower wing panel, it will fall off, and besides, your foot will go through the wing, probably breaking your leg. The best way to enter the cockpit is to climb over the tail surfaces and crawl up the turtle back. Be sure to brush the gopher and squirrel nests out of the cockpit. Take care not to cut your hands on the remnants of the windshield.
3. Instruments: After having carefully lowered yourself into the seat and groped in vain for a safety belt, take a good look at the instruments; both of them. The one on the right is the tachometer. It doesn't work. The other one is an altimeter, and functioned perfectly until 1918, when the hand fell off. Look at them now, for after the engine starts you won't be able to.
4. Starting the motor: The switch is on the right; it is not connected.' However it gives a sense of Confidence to the mechanic who is pulling the prop through to hear the switch click when you say "switch off". If for some reason the motor does start, don't get out to pick up the unconscious and bleeding mechanic, he deserved it.
5. Warming up: Don't warm up the engine. It will only run a few minutes anyway, and the longer it runs on the ground the less flying time you have. After the throttle is opened, do not expose any portion of your body outside the cockpit. It is no fun having your face slapped by a flying rocker arm, or being peppered with small bits of piston rings, valves, etc. that are continually coming out of the exhaust stacks.
6. The takeoff: The takeoff is in direct defiance of all the laws of nature. If you have a passenger, don't try it.
7. The flight: After you have dodged trees, windmills, and chimneys until you are over the lake, you will note a large hole in the left side of the fuselage. This hole is to allow the stick to be moved far enough to make a left turn. Don't try one to the right.
8. The landing: The landing is made in accordance with the laws of gravity. If the landing gear doesn't collapse on the first bounce, don't worry, it will on the second. After you have extricated yourself from the wreckage and helped the spectators put out the fire, light a cigarette, and with a nonchalant shrug walk disdainfully away.
-- 156.34.221.174 16:14, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Another variant...here or seperate?
The Curtiss N-9 was a seaplane variant of the JN-4, and is not yet covered in Wikipedia. I'm getting set to do an article on it, but would like input...because the airframe was fairly significantly modified, one could argue that it is different enough to cover it in a seperate article. Yet, there is also merit in keeping all the variants together in one place. Does anyone have opinions? Akradecki 05:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- No response, so it'll get its own page, with a reference on this page. Akradecki 20:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Title change?
Every reference external to this article, and even in the article text, the model is JN-4...with a dash. I see no reason the this article should be JN4 without a dash. It goes against standard usage, and WP articles are supposed to reflect the common, standard usage. If I don't hear any objections, I plan on moving the article to Curtiss JN-4. Akradecki 05:29, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- No response (I assume that means no one is actively watching this page), so I've made the move. Akradecki 20:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
