Talk:Cult Awareness Network

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1 mainly about Scientology, not CAN
2 Ridiculously POV and biased article
3 Galen Kelly was not convicted of kidnapping
4 Ted Patrick, Rick Ross, etc
5 What is "PTSness"?

[edit] mainly about Scientology, not CAN

This article seems to be mainly about Scientology, not CAN. There should be more on the "old", pre-Scientology CAN, which was certainly not a bunch of choirboys, any more than the new "Scientology" CAN is. 172.198.175.160 07:31, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I'm sure this comment was accurate at the time it was written, but now the pendulum seems to have swung to the other extreme, with no mention of Scientology in the article. --Marnen Laibow-Koser (talk) 22:43, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ridiculously POV and biased article

And good old Uncle Ed has contributed most of it. Maybe we should just re-write the article so that it says, in capital letters: CAN WAS AN EVIL TERRORIST ORGANIZATION RUN BY EVIL DEPROGRAMMERS WHO WORKED CEASELESSLY TO PERSECUTE INNOCENT RELIGIOUS GROUPS!!! THEY WERE EVIL!!!!! BUT NOW THEY ARE GONE, HOORAY.

I'm reverting it. Discuss here. --Modemac 02:37, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hi. I agree with all of your remark, except the hooray part. I would have said, "What a waste." -- Uncle Ed (talk) 22:11, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)

Does that mean that the NPOV dispute has been resolved?

MSTCrow 07:38, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

I guess the dispute is resolved but the article still needs attention. -- FP 07:53, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Galen Kelly was not convicted of kidnapping

Galen Kelly was not convicted of kidnapping: http://www.rickross.com/reference/deprogramming/deprogramming4.html I'll correct the text accordingly. He later pleaded guilty to a lesser charge and got "time served".

Additionally, there's no real evidence that he (or that Donald Moore) are "CAN Operatives". (What is the definition for this? Anyone who attended a CAN convention? Anyone who cleaned a CAN ashtray?) Tilman 17:54, 29 August 2005 (UTC)Tilman

[edit] Ted Patrick, Rick Ross, etc

1) There is no evidence that CAN "referred hundreds of cases to Rick Ross". The link mentions only that Rick Ross had hundreds of cases, not who refererred them.

2) Ted Patrick did not "help create" CFF. This is a somewhat fuzzy concept anyway. Ted Patrick is not in the incorporation papers. The only thing that can be found is that one Henrietta Crampton mentioned that Ted Patrick was "the prime force in organizing the group". (New York Times, September 2, 1974)

Tilman 06:05, 7 September 2005 (UTC)Tilman