User talk:Crampy20

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[edit] WikiProject Macintosh

Jeez, I even beat out the welcoming comitee...

Anyway, thanks for joining! The current Macintosh collaboration is Steve Jobs. Don't forget to put {{Project Macintosh}} on your userpage. We’re all honored that you want to join our WikiProject...and Wikipedia in general. --HereToHelp (talkcontribs) 21:47, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome

Hi, saw you dropping by HTH's talk page. As the 'official' welcoming committee hasn't dropped by yet, I'll do the honours :)


Welcome!

Hello, Crampy20, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  Petros471 22:09, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

If you have any questions about how Wikipedia works you can either try following the advice above, or feel free to contact me on my talk page. Cheers, Petros471 22:09, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I was about to do that!

I'd also like to point you to the Simplified Ruleset. Also be sure to Sign your posts on talk pages (but only on talk pages!) ~~~~ will render this: HereToHelp (talkcontribs) 22:12, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help Is Here

How may I help you? (Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 18:01, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for coming to my (un-important) aid. Please go to the Oh my goddess page. Scroll to the bottom, and you will see the fancy characters box. Basically I want to replicate this but of a similar style for several different pages (Tenchi Muyo). I have read some help pages but they are frankly not helpful. Crampy20 18:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

No request for aid is unimportant. I am not sure I understand what you mean by "fancy characters box" -- do you mean the "insert" box that allows you to insert hard to type characters when you are editing an article? The bottom of the Oh my goddess page does have a disambig template added to it to let you know that its a disambiguation page . . . is that what you mean? (Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 18:09, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
No sorry i ment this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh_My_Goddess%21 specificly. Crampy20 18:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
You mean the info box? That was created with the {{Oh My Goddess Nav}} template, but you can create a table that will do the same thing (look at the source of my userpage to see how to make a table). Is that what you mean or is it printing foregin characters? (Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 18:16, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Sorry I am trying to type too quickly... my request is how do I retrive the wiki format code for that box, i know how to call it to a page if i want to through the {{Oh My Goddess Nav}} call. But what i want is to get the code and simply change the names for a differnet programme (Tenchi Muyo) and then assign that to a similar call and then add it to the bottom of every relevent page... All i require is basicly how to do the whole thing !!!sos
To get the format code for the box, add the "subst" in front of the template, like this: {{subst:Tenchi Muyo!}} and save it on your page. Then when you go to edit it again you will have the code placed there instead of the template. Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crampy20/sandbox - does this help any? (Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 18:24, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Okay so what would i type to get specificaly that box??? and hopefully just that box?
the wiki code for the box looks like this: {| style="margin: auto; text-align: center; clear; both" class="toccolours" |- ! '''[[Tenchi Muyo!|''Tenchi Muyo!'' series]]''' |- | style="font-size: 90%;" | '''TV Series:''' [[Tenchi Muyo! OAV|''Tenchi Muyo!'' OAV]] | ''[[Tenchi Universe]]'' | ''[[Tenchi in Tokyo]]'' | ''[[Tenchi Muyo! GXP]]'' | ''[[Pretty Sammy]]'' '''Characters:''' [[Tenchi Masaki]] | [[Ryoko (Tenchi Muyo!)|Ryoko]] | [[Ayeka]] | [[Sasami]] | [[Washu]] | [[Ryo-Ohki]] | [[Mihoshi]] | [[Kiyone Makibi|Kiyone]] |} (Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 18:36, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Sorry that it has taken me time to thank you i had internet problems! THANKS!!!
It was my pleasure! Take care. (Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 19:40, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You Rang??

How may I help you? (Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 19:56, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I have been blocked from editing. According to the info page it has been for vandalism. Furthermore if one examines my ip page 194.154.22.52. you will notice several edits that i can definatly assert that i didnt do. I am behind a proxy, is this what could be causing the problem (sorry about not doing the proper formatting, it wont let me...)
Yes, if you are behind a proxy and someone else is using your proxy server as well, then you could all be blocked for vandalism. remember to always log into your account and then there will be no question of anonymous vandalism since your passphrase is needed. I can ask an admin to scan the IP address for you to see if it is a proxy or not and see what they have to say about it. (Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 20:11, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Please, can you. I allways log in an as far as i know, have not committed any vandelism. Surely if i log in, as i am now, i shouldnt be blocked?
No, you shouldn;t be blocked but if you are let me know. Have a gander at the following page: WP:OP -- it tells you how to report a problem with regards to proxies. I am sure you haven't done any vandalism, but just log in each time so we will be able to see your contributions each time instead of an anonymous IP address. And don't take it personally, OK? We have vandals galore here and sometimes there does need to be action taken against them, but that doesn;t mean that good-willed, active contributors should be blocked. (Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 20:20, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Okay thank you, i have rooted around and it appears that some of the losers at my place have been editing pages to reflect their opinions of others within the company for instance they went to the whore page and added a list of people who they consider to be this. And... it appears that this has reflected on me. Also i have never edited annonymously, but that is not important. I shall make a point on WP:EA and i have emailed the amdim who blocked me, so hopefully i shall get a reply! Thanks again!
Ok, no problem. If you are editing from a company, they often use proxies so it is hard to tell who exactly is causing mischief since to the admins here it all looks like they come from the same IP address. Thus the need to log in and report proxies. If you do notice vandalism, by the way, just revert it, I police vandals a lot here too, they are a pain, but that all comes with the territory. Cheers! (Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 20:40, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: WikiProject Anime and manga participantion

You are listed at a participant of WikiProject Anime and manga. A recent change in how participants are listed — using a category — will result in your inadvertent removal from the project. If you wish to continue your participantion, please check the the project page for details on how to add yourself back to the project. --TheFarix 00:23, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tenchi Muyo!

Yo I just created a page for the OVA series and I have to say I am not completly impressed with the changes you made for Tenchi Muyo!. To help reduce the amount of pages needed I was thinking now that I have completed the page we can talk about what to do with many of your new character pages and also with restoring character information that was lost. My plan is to ultimately created new profiles for characters in the three Tenchi Muyo series but also in the GXP and Pretty Sammy pages. --Adv193

Yes i agree, the changes are not perfect but it is imperative that there are character pages. It is definatly not a solution. I did accidentaly miss out some of the manga charcters and if you want i can retrieve that information and place them on pages. I hope you are "cool" with the character box by the way. Please do not delete any of the character pages, while it is imperative that there is information on the TM! page about characters, the amount of imformation that there was there to wade through was stupid. Hence moving the pages and giving an easy to use interface to learn only about the characters that you want to learn about. On each character page there should be sections for all the differnt series but bear in mind that all the text that is on those pages was from the TM! page originaly. Like i said in my talk message, even i am not impressed with my own changes, but with the lack of effort to improve that frankly crap page what can one do? Crampy20 10:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Anyway I have done a lot of work and I also helped with your new template by readding the series and Noike to their proper sections. I also have been coming up with new ideas for improvements and I figure a good way is to create a list of Characters for Tenchi Muyo!, but have it focus on the other characters and not the ones that have seprete pages (It's a good chance to readd the manga characters and added simple descriptions to the other minor characters of Tenchi Muyo!). Also for each series pages I was thinking of listing the Voice actor list and also as part of my hard work I have developed the Tenchi Muyo! OVA! series page (Including add episode Title info with the help of my OVA 3 Volume #1 DVD from Funimation to help with the OVA 3 titles) and have redeveloped the Nobuyuki Masaki, Noike Jurai, and Minami Kuramitsu pages with more in-depth, as well as minor changes to Kagato and even used my dvds to help with them as well. --Adv193. PS. After reading your last note it completly goes with all the extra effort I have been putting in these last few days.
Yes, thank you for the help. I am planning my next big run of pushing relevent information to the right places and reformating the Tenchi muyo page completly so not only does it look nice but it shall also read well. (i am currently not worrying about text errors only big important errors). I will add more pictures and dvd covers soon and shall create a set of pages, each one for one episode of the OVA series, and write a short description and give a little picture. I am not a writer particularly but someone who sees what needs to be done it terms of the whole picture with this... Crampy20 14:15, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Just so you know that before I joined Wikipedia, on one of my IP addresses, I personally created and wrote the original draft for the English Adaptions Distributor History section for the sole purpose of helping newcomers and vetran fans understand that the English releases of the anime had two different distributors. Just try to keep this in mind when you work on reworking the main Tenchi Muyo! page. --Adv193.
  • What? Why does that matter? I am not planning on deleting any info. Moving it yes, reformating the page yes, deleting things no. So i am sorry if i am being rude, but what was the point of telling me that? Crampy20 16:13, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Just to let you know why it was created. I am sorry if I sounded rude. --Adv193

[edit] Welcome to Esperanza!

Welcome, Crampy20, to Esperanza, the Wikipedia member association! As you might know, all the Esperanzians share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the Charter, the governing document of the association.

Now that you are a member, you might be interested in some of our programs. A quite important program is the StressUnit, which seeks to support editors who have encountered any stress from their Wikipedia events, and are seeking to leave the project. So far, Esperanza can be credited with the support and retention of several users. We have a calendar of special events, member birthdays, and other holidays that you can add to and follow.

In addition to these projects, several more missions of Esperanza are in development, and are currently being created at Esperanza/Possibles.

I encourage you to take an active voice in the running of Esperanza. We have a small government system, headed by our Administrator general, Celestianpower, and guided by the Advisory Committee , KnowledgeOfSelf, JoanneB, Titoxd and FireFox. The elections have ended.

If you have any other questions, concerns, comments, or general ideas, Esperanzian or otherwise, know that you can always contact me via email or talk page. Alternatively, you could communicate with fellow users via our IRC channel, #wikipedia-esperanza (which is also good for a fun chat or two :). I thank you for joining Esperanza, and look forward to working with you in making Wikipedia a better place to be!

Thanks! - nathanrdotcom (TCW) 22:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tenchi template

The template I did was just a rough sketch I did. Thanks. Duo02 (Shout here!) 14:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Next step in Tenchi Muyo!

I have created a new topic on the talk page of Tenchi Muyo! feel free to add your comments so we can talk about what to do about development. --Adv193

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

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"No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention."
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  1. Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before.
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  6. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially.
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[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

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  1. The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details.
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Signed...
Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 19:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sasami: Mahou Shoujo Club on Tenchi Muyo template

I beg to disagree with you removing Sasami: Mahou Shoujo Club from the Tenchi Muyo template, but I've been to the official website of Tenchi Muyo!, and it does advertise the new Sasami series. So don't remove the new series from the template. - 上村七美 09:55, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old Skool Esperanzial note

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service.
This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins.
Stressbusters
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As always, MiszaBot handled this delivery. Thank you! Also, congratulations go to Pschemp, Titoxd and Freakofnurture for being elected in the last elections! An Esperanzial May to all of the readership!
  1. Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel.
  2. A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect.
  3. Various revisions have been made to the Code of Conduct. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct.
  4. Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop.
  5. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon.
Signed...
Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, Pschemp and Freakofnurture
20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A short Esperanzial update

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)


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AGGGGGGGG, it isnt in any articles, because it was just deleted because i copied copyrighted info without realising (from another wikipedia page). It WOULD be being used if the other article wasn't deleted.--Crampy20 21:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
It'se ok you've got few days to fix it (and the other fair use images) but there were rather a lot of fair use images in that article you might want to try and reduce that.Geni 21:54, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
fair use is a rather complex area of US copywrite law. In this case it means that while a screenshot is probably OK the number shout be very limited (say 1).Geni 22:00, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Your edit to List of Kiddy Grade Minor characters

Your recent edit to List of Kiddy Grade Minor characters (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // AntiVandalBot 10:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

it appears to have resopned to your page blanking. I have reveted to your last preblanking version

[edit] Clarine Harp

Please don't recreate this article unless you can add some context to expand it beyond four words. Also, biographical articles should take particular care to ensure that they meet the inclusion requirements. Stifle (talk) 15:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Melissa Elise

Please see WP:V and WP:NN. There are reasons why non-notable people are not welcomed subjects on this encyclopedia. If the subject is not notable enough to ensure reliable sources of information about that subject, then it doesn't belong in WP. Frankly, don't expect articles on non-notable people to expand naturally if not enough people out there have any information on the subject. I suggest you stop getting frustrated and understand these policies and why they came about. Also, if you want to be given the benefit of the doubt on questionable articles, I suggest you start authoring articles that comply with the Manual of Style, at least that way people can assume you're familiar with WP's policies. hateless 18:48, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Sorry for any problems regarding my revert on Melissa Elise. I saw the entry on the AfD page but noticed that the article was missing its AfD tag, but did not catch on that the original author was requesting deletion. The article has since been deleted anyway. --66.28.20.178 21:47, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clarine Harp

I am sorry to be rash, but maybe if you left the article there I would have time to place some more content on it. I was typing up content twice and before I could post it, the article wasn't there. I didn't realise it was being deleted, though I suppose it was obvious. --Crampy20 18:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I would recommend waiting until you have typed the full article before posting it. If you wish to see how a section looks, use the Show preview button. This will make sure that articles aren't needlessly speedily deleted.
If you need access to this or any other deleted text, please let me know, and provided it isn't defamatory or a copyright violation, I will make it available to you. Stifle (talk) 22:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kiddy Grade

I understand you are doing your administrative job. But what is your problem with me writing detailed descriptions of Kiddy Grade characters? I do not want this to personal. --Crampy20 22:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I am not doing an administrative job by listing articles for deletion. This is me acting as a regular editor. I feel that many Kiddy Grade characters do not exhibit notability, and that the articles do not have citations from reliable sources to make them verifiable. They may also be fancruft. You can share your opinion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiddy Grade characters. Stifle (talk) 22:52, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
I have already supplied an opinion. Policy dictates that notability is not a reason for deletion, instead refer to AFD for a decision. I have also pointed out that in fact Kiddy Grade is more popular than the biggest anime around today (Ah my goddess) via the typical AFD GHits measure. I feel that acting as a regular editor does not include trying to get articles deleted. That is just disgustingly rude. Deleting peoples work is spiteful.
I have also noted this 'fancruft' rubbish, but as you are clearly in-adept at anime, i find your opinion null. --Crampy20 22:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
I have already supplied an opinion. Policy dictates that notability is not a reason for deletion, instead refer to AFD for a decision. I have also pointed out that in fact Kiddy Grade is more popular than the biggest anime around today (Ah my goddess) via the typical AFD GHits measure. I feel that acting as a regular editor does not include trying to get articles deleted. That is just disgustingly rude. Deleting peoples work is spiteful.
I have also noted this 'fancruft' rubbish, but as you are clearly in-adept at anime, i find your opinion null. --Crampy20 22:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Please refrain from making personal attacks. Stifle (talk) 23:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Point taken, but can you actually concentrate on the matter at hand not breaking policy. You are in fact the first person I have been rude to, and even then... --Crampy20 23:09, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
I do not believe I have broken any policy. I did not delete any articles, merely referred them to the community for the consideration of deletion. Stifle (talk) 23:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Opps sorry, my wording was off, i ment concentrating on kiddy grade not me breaking policy. I take THAT back with a lot of gusto --Crampy20 23:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
No problem. Let's keep the discussion at the AFD page. Stifle (talk) 23:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Eclair and Lumiere (Kiddy Grade) article.

Is this fancruft, I recently typed it up, I know it isn't perfect. But i want to get away from fancruft, and can't continue without knowing if this is considered fancruft. --Crampy20 18:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion this is much better. I am not, however, sure that the characters are notable enough to merit their own articles. This is a separate issue from fancruft. Stifle (talk) 19:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
WP:N is explicitly not policy, wether or not it falls in check with that article is a null point. If you are concerned about Notability i suggest looking at Category:Pokemon and admiring the girth of articles for the pokemon past-its-time, anime series. --Crampy20 19:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Just because something is not policy does not mean it is not right or not used. Pokémon has many times the fanbase of Kiddy Grade and is nowhere near as dead as you may believe. Stifle (talk) 21:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Do not revert edits without a good reason

Policy dictates that reverts are only necessary if they are really necessary. Reverting the edit of the AfD Kiddy Grade discussion was not necessary. --Crampy20 18:53, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I gave a very good reason for the reverts. For starters, we do not C&P large sections of policies into AfD discussions, instead we use wikilinks. And second, the headings disrupted the formatting of the AfD logs and deletion sorting pages, including Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Japan and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2006 July 24 among others. --TheFarix (Talk) 19:02, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
It wasn't C&P'd so that makes your point invalid and also the policy. The AfD logs have nothing to do with it. --Crampy20 19:07, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Helpme response

Thank you, its just a quick question. Couldn't find it easily in policy. If there is a talk page of an article and you make a suggestion then someone rv's the talk page based on the fact that he/she disagrees with the content or finds it "sarcastic," is that allowable? The main question is can you point me to a page that has the policy clearly on it. --Crampy20 22:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I couldn't find anything, Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines was the closest but it's not helpful. I think common sense applies, of course you should only remove someone's comment from a talk page if you are archiving or it is vandalism. You could ask at the Help desk to get more people to trawl through the guidelines/policies.--Commander Keane 22:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kiddy grade Peer review

First things first. The Ah! My Goddess page is almost defiantly the BEST anime/manga page on Wikipedia, and through a brief trawl of its history, you appear to be the person who made this so. I would be most grateful if you could read the Kiddy Grade article and its subsequent pages a take part in a peer review of the pages? I would be most thankful. The peer review page is here to provide feedback, and if you are not familiar with peer reviews, though as the AMG page was I doubt it, the guidelines are here.

Thank you!!!

--Crampy20 21:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. There actualy is a better anime page out there for Excel Saga. I'll work on a "peer review" as soon as possible. --Cat out 00:41, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Kiddy Grade

I notice that you have an interest in Kiddy Grade, from the article history. Unfortunatly, the entire article was copied from another site. I am currently wikifying the page to improve layout and ease of use, but all the text remains copied. If display enough interest to assist me in retyping up the bios of the characters it would be helpful. Thanks --Crampy20 21:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

A lot of the text of the page was copied by someone from my site (it was originally listed as a reference in the earliest history but ended up in links), but I don't mind. Shiroi Hane 21:32, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Kiddy Grade Move

Thank you very very much for your contribution to the Kiddy Grade article. I don't wish to scare from editing, but the articles are going through AfD, and may be up for deletion. While that is occurring, the pages have to stay as they are, the formatting can change, but we can't move them around. I am sorry for this, I agree with this change, just not yet. --Crampy20 11:28, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

FYI I have been editing the main Kiddy Grade article for over a year, almost as long as it has existed. I have not moved any articles, all I have done is create a proper list of episodes which was suggested in the Peer Review you yourself initiated and does not fall under the auspices of the KG characters AFD. Shiroi Hane 14:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Nothing in the AfD page, or the deletion policy, or the recent talk page for either of those pages says that you cannot update the articles. The idea that they must stay the same is false, if you don't want the page deleted then you should update it. So long as I list them on the afd page afterwards, I fail to see how it has any impact on the deletion process. And so long as the article history still exists, (which it did, at the Lumiere (Kiddy Grade) page) the GFDL was not broken either. --tjstrf 15:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kiddy Grade character AfD

Hey -- I've just closed the AfD. The consensus and outcome of the discussion was to merge all the characters except for Eclair and Lumiere (Kiddy Grade) to the List of Kiddy Grade characters page. Since you're so heavily involved here, would you be willing to do the merges? I figure, if I did them, you'd just end up cleaning up after me anyway. Mangojuicetalk 16:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, never mind, I see you haven't been active in a couple of days. I'm going to do my best; the old versions are still in the history of the redirect pages, so you can fix up my mistakes. Mangojuicetalk 01:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Current mac project collaboration

The current WP:MAC collaboration is Apple II family. Please devote some time to improve this article to featured status. — Wackymacs 13:58, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] August Esperanza Newsletter

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[edit] September Esperanza Newsletter

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