Talk:Court jester
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Do the origins of the jester really date back to prehistoric times?
There seems to be a fair bit of duplication in the article...? --Shallot 13:16, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- I cannot judge this, but this article, although a good start, only tells you information about famous jesters, but does not explain, what the fool and court jester meant, especially during the middle ages. If able to understand German, have a look at http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narr. Perhaps I will edit the article here sometime, but this will be a lot of work...--KarlNapf 01:58, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
This is a pretty random question but would some one happen to know if court jesters ever spun plates? And if so what year might they be doing such a thing? - Beans
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[edit] Cut from article
The joker (playing card) often shows a court jester. The original version is The Fool card (Number Zero) in the Tarot pack. The Tarot was devised during the Dark Ages as a 'blind' or 'smokescreen' in which esoteric, metaphysical sacred symbols were hidden in the form of a children's pack of playing cards, or as a fortune-telling toy to throw off religious inquisitors. The symbols used in these cards came from Occult Mystery Schools along the Greek Gnostic, the Kabbalist Judaism, the Hermetic Schools of Egypt, the Medieaval Freemasons, Rosicrucians, and Far Eastern religions. The symbols can be found in Egyptian and Babylonian pyramids, and in Sanskrit texts (ie., Hiranya Garbha).
[edit] Perkeo, the dwarf-jester from Heildelberg
I made a specific question about this jester on the issue "comprachicos". Could any history specialist please help me? Thanks. Stella.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprachicos <- This would explain it. Basically, it is Spanish for someone who buys children.
[edit] not jesters
Two Clowns in Hamlet
This is a mistake the clowns were not jester, one of them tells Hamlet that he has been a grave-digger for thirty years (since Hamlet was born [1]):
[edit] Questions this article leaves unanswered
- Is there a difference between a Jester and a clown?
- Where did the characteristic bell-hat come from, and what colors was it originally?
--Nerd42 03:30, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
they were cool
[edit] liliripe or liripipe
Minor point, but the article parenthetically names the pointed, floppy, belled ornaments of the fool's cap as liliripes. I have never heard of this word, but think it must be a typo or corruption of liripipe, which has had many meanings over the years, including meaning "a cord or sash hanging from the point of a hood, esp. in academic regalia." Can anyone corroborate that the correct term is liripipe, or for that matter, that liripipe can be used to describe the parts of a coxcomb?
adoarns 16:50, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The art of the jester
There is too much information in "The art of the jester" which does not link well with the rest of the article — for instance, the sentence on Freud, Please, make this article about court jesters and not other things. Rintrah 11:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
All jesters and fools in those days were thought of as special cases whom God had touched with a childlike madness—a gift, or perhaps a curse. Mentally handicapped people sometimes found employment by capering and behaving in an amusing way. In the harsh world of medieval Europe, people who might not be able to survive any other way thus found a social niche.
This sounds like something that would be told to children. Which sources verify it? It seems altogether too fanciful. Rintrah 11:20, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Court?
Why isn't this simply at jester? There seems to be no disambiguation.
