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Archive of discussion prior to March 2006

Contents 1 Mirroring 2 Vandalism and Poor Reverts 3 Pointless Links 4 Cash for planting bomb 5 Professional CS 6 More Appropriate Bomb Defusal Picture 7 Map types 8 Camper Strike 9 Skins 10 Citation Needed (TAG) Abuse 11 External Link addition 12 Most Played Online Game? 13 Description of Weapons 14 Weapons market? 15 How many players were online just before CS was bought by Valve?

[edit] Mirroring

I have just expanded the criticisms section with a little on the history, reasons and ramifications of "mirroring". I really ought to have a source for the bit about how Gooseman preferred to model weapons in the left hand, but I'm afraid I read it in an interview about five years ago and I just remember him saying something to that effect, so I don't. I also added another counterargument to the thing about different guns of the same calibre doing different amounts of damage (differently powered cartridges). --YourMessageHere 00:54, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism and Poor Reverts

Could we please take a look at what we're reverting to, I've just reverted to a copy of the article from 11 March. There's been quite a lot of vandalism and then reverts to a vandalised version since then. Make sure you're not reverting to a vandalised version. - Hahnchen 06:24, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering why people take off www.counter-strike.com from the links. Thanks --Marc 04:10, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

counter-strike.com is a website for selling Counter-Strike web servers. The official site was originally located at counter-strike.net, but has since been moved to http://storefront.steampowered.com/v2/index.php?area=game&AppId=240 (now a redirect there) —Last Avenue [talk | contributions] 05:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

someone should ban Abbynormal1, he keeps putting that site back on the article, I saw his talk page and he's had so many warnings and no one is taking the initiative. angers 23:15, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I should be banned for adding Counter-Strike.com to the Counter-Strike wiki? Wow. I've not had "so many warnings" I've had one, and it was about an unrelated site. That dispute was resolved. I'm an active and thorough contributor, please explain more why I should be banned, bud. Let me add that I added the external link only after giving it lots of time under Pointless Links. See below. --Abbynormal1 04:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

someone has vandalized it< how do i report? or could someone else?

[edit] Pointless Links

I Have Deleted the "INTHEHOLE" link, this is not a big Community, a lot are bigger, this is just the owning trying to get attention to his/her site --The Itchy One 10:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I almost reverted your addition of the Enemy Down league, since the consensus here is to remove any links not discussed in advance on this page. At first glance, it looks like a valid league, so I will defer to others who know the coomunity better. --Habap 12:30, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

As instructed below, I'm requesting a link to Counter-Strike.com be added to external links. They do sell servers (my clan has one through them), they also have a huge resource of community content. We use their forums, we use their maps sections, their strategy guides, their plugin guides, and countless other things I don't really need to list. Feel free to check it out for yourself.

FPS Banana sells Alienware computers and Samsung Mobile PC's. CS-Nation sells griffinrun.com Anyway, any argument that Counter-Strike.com is at least equal in relevent content to the others? Abbynormal1

So, if nobody disagrees with me, I'll be adding the link Wedneday, September 13th. Abbynormal1

Does the XcG clan and BigBudDen clan really belong on the community links section? These are clan sites, of which there are thousands. My opinion is that clan sites are not relevent for the external/community links section. Not sure though, feedback appreciated.

--Abbynormal1 03:11, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Correct, clan sites don't belong or else we have to list 10,000 of them. --Habap 14:44, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I removed the links to "Big Bud Den Community" "Team UFH" which are clan sites. --Abbynormal1 19:05, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cash for planting bomb

I have removed the part where it says that planting the bomb gives the player $1800, for that has been removed since v1.5.

When the round time expires without the bomb being successfully planted and detonating, the Counter-Terrorists win (Not applicable to Counter-Strike: Source, when the bomb is planted, the round time disappears)

That is false - since a steam update the round time disappears in CS 1.6, too.

[edit] Professional CS

This is somewhat unrelated to the Counter-Strike page, but I'm no Wikipedia expert. I just want to point out this site, Professional counter-strike. It really seems like a plain self-promotion page. Some valid tactics and tips. Other things there are plainly unconnected to anything besides the authors site. Anybody willing to clean it up? Wahming 02:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, I will nominated the article for deletion. - RoyBoy ⁸⁰⁰ 03:47, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More Appropriate Bomb Defusal Picture

The current bomb plant picture is taken in Counter-Strike Source, I would think that a picture taken in Counter-Strike would be more appropriate. Credema 06:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Map types

I reduced the content of this section down to simply a link to Counter-Strike maps, and changed the name to "Maps". The list of maps really didn't serve a purpose in the main Counter-Strike article, as it was nothing but a bulleted list, took up space (the article was up to 38kb before I did this, and could still use a bit of whittling down), and wasn't particularly useful; not to mention that the "Commonly played unofficial maps" subsection was nothing but original research, and highly debatable original research at that (see the AfD for "Custom Counter-Strike maps"). Hargle 14:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Camper Strike

Some people know this game as Camper Strike or AS (Awper Strike). I think these two should be added.

I've never heard of it called as such...

In all my time playing Counter-Strike, I have never heard it called Awper Strike. Camper Strike has been thrown around here and there as an insult to the game but it has never been used as an "official" name for it. --Diametes T. Jackson 00:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

neither me. You can call it as you want but the official name remain "Counter-Strike" ;) --Chico75 16:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Skins

Do you think we should add a section on the Skins you can play as? (e.g. SAS, Phoenix Connection). If so then i'll be happy to start it.

There was a scetion on Models until two days ago. User:JimmyBlackwing removed it with this comment: removed Player models section - non-notable trivia unnecessary for this article. Do not revert without first bringing it up on talk page [1]

I think it's relevant information as indicated by your post asking whether you should add the section. --Habap 16:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

(Original Poster): Thanks for the feedback, if you still think it is relevant then i'll add it as soon as possible.

[edit] Citation Needed (TAG) Abuse

It seems like there is a citation needed tag after almost every sentence in this article. It looks like vandalism to me. As such, I feel that we should remove all the tags that are currently present, espescially considering that much of the citation needed information is easily verifiable. Shadow 16:33, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Added to Request for Protection list Shadow 16:43, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Note at the bottom of the Counter-Strike article, someone has placed a personal review of Counter-Strike Source, which most definitely is vandalism, and it should be dealt with. --Ccolling 02:26, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Link addition

Counter-Strike.com seems like a pretty obvious addition that's not currently in the external links. They are pretty well known for their community content. Forums, downloads, guides, strategy, mods...anyone disagree?

Abbynormal1 08:30, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I've not heard anyone disagree that Counter-Strike.com belongs in the external links due to it's large amount of community content. I'm therefore requesting the protected page be edited to include the link, which I believe used to be there. The link used to be something like:

Counter-Strike.com -- Counter-Strike servers, forums, downloads, guides.

Something like that would be appropriate, imho.

If you read above you can see that an argument against that website has' been made already. Please respond to that argument if you wish the link to be included. Thanks! JesseW, the juggling janitor 18:48, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Most Played Online Game?

In The First Section it states that counter strike is the most played online game which is not true it is teh biggest played online computer game yes but halo 2 is most played out of all some one needs to change it to computer game

Do you have a source saying Halo 2 is the most played? --Snkcube 23:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

http://archive.gamespy.com/stats/ , Halo 2 may be the most played Xbox Live game, but it is not the most played game online. --

--Ccolling 02:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I thought the most played was that sucky MMORPG World of Warcraft? 85.12.80.128 12:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Description of Weapons

I deleted that section since Wikipedia is not a game guide. This content has already been deleted as an article by itself just a week ago. Now it pops up again here. *sigh* --Jestix 16:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Weapons market?

This is only a change to Counter-Strike: Source, and I don't see why it should be included here. Just as the page on Doom 1 wouldn't contain info on every update to Doom 3, this is unrelated information.

I agree, it should be removed, it relates to a successor of 1.6, but not CS 1.6 itself, so therefore it should be abolished completely from the "Counter-Strike" page --Ccolling 02:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How many players were online just before CS was bought by Valve?

I believe it could be useful information. --fs 23:44, 14 November 2006 (UTC)