User talk:Corpx

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[edit] Vince Young

Hello, I need some help please in understanding your last edit to Vince Young because I don't understand what you are looking for. Here is the sequence of events as I see them:

1. I found an article here that says Vince Young and Matt Leinart accepted an award for "Best Game". I misinterpreted that to mean they "won" the award.
2. I added a statement about the award, along with the reference to the article, into the Vince Young article.
3. You corrected the wording, but you also removed the reference.
4. I assumed your removal of the reference was in error, so I added it back.
5. You removed the reference again with the edit summary " (1) please link directly to youtube where original uploader put it up. 2) video is now removed from youtube due to copyright issues.)" [1]
6. This leaves me confused. In your edit summary, you say I should like to yourtube, but then you say the the video is no longer there, so that seems contradictory.
7. I don't understand why you mention yourtube at all. I never even went to yourtube and the reference is not to yourtube. The reference I cite is to an article which is stil there. Even if it weren't still there, we can link to news articles that are no longer on-line. That is why we put the "accessdate" field in the template, to tell people when we pulled down the content. In fact, the url field is an optional field in template {{Cite news}}, which is what I used.
8. If you want to reference a different source for this same fact, plese put the new reference in instead of just taking mine out. Otherwise, I will restore the reference I am using because it is better to have the fact supported by some source rather than none-at-all.

Thanks in advance for your explanaiton. Johntex\^talk 23:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

• Sorry about that....didnt realize that he had updated the video link. Originally it was a youtube player imbedded, and now its from Myspace. Feel free to revert it.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Corpx (talk • contribs) 16:29, 2006 July 25 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanation. Whether or not the video is still there is not really relevant. I am not linking to yourtube. I am linking to an on-line reference that mentions they won the award. The fact that reference also mentions yourtube is not relevant. I am not using them as a source about yourtube, I am using them as a source about the award. The video is not relevant, I only care about the text that says they won the award.

As to why reference that fact and not others, we should be striving to reference every single fact. The fact that we are not there yet does not mean we should delete references when we do have them.

I am restoring the reference.

Thanks, Johntex\^talk 00:32, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I think it depends on what they are saying. If they were saying something like "Vince Young sleeps with underaged girls" or "Matt Leinart has three heads", I'd be looking for a more mainstream source. For something as innocuous as this, I think its fine. You're welcome to replace it with a different source if you want. Johntex\^talk 01:23, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

With regards to your comments on Vince Young: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. "Do not make personal attacks anywhere in Wikipedia. Comment on content, not on the contributor. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users." Please keep this in mind while editing. Thanks. Ryūlóng 08:20, 6 August 2006 (UTC)