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Contents 1 As it stands, this is not a Wikipedia article 2 Moved from Talk:Index of perception of corruption 2.1 Sudden fall-offs 2.2 Survey instrument 2.3 Again, a possible effort by TI to control Wikipedia's coverage of them 2.3.1 Proposed merge 2.4 Preparing for the future... 3 Post-merger discussion 3.1 Where is 2004? 3.2 File size 3.2.1 Is there any Alternative index? 3.2.2 Hate to be stupid, but... 3.3 Protestant, Germanic lingual bias 3.4 What are contributing factors to avoid corruption? 3.5 Latest ranking (2006) published by Transparency Index 3.6 UPDATE NEW:Survey 2006 3.7 Do you have any idea why the 2004 survey is omitted from the table?

[edit] As it stands, this is not a Wikipedia article

Wikipedia is not supposed to simply reprint a groups's FAC. Either this is a copyvio, or we have permission to quote from it, and should, but should write our own article. Or perhaps this is a POV fork of Index of perception of corruption? In any case, it is not OK in its present form. -- Jmabel | Talk 08:11, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

• Lacking response, I am reducing this to a stub. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:09, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree, this article is inherently POV.

If it needs to be modified, then add to the article; don't remove the chart of nations.

The chart of nations is fine; it's the text with which I had an issue. I believe it is now at least somewhat addressed. At the time I wrote, it was verbatim fromtheir website. - Jmabel | Talk 18:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moved from Talk:Index of perception of corruption

[edit] Sudden fall-offs

I'm really mystified by the sudden fall-offs in many developing countries from excellent scores (e.g. 9.5) to scores in the range of 2.0 to 3.5. Did the questions in the survey change? Did the methodology change? Is the margin of error so large as to make these numbers meaningless? -- Jmabel 18:32, Oct 9, 2004 (UTC)

This is answered in the ICGG FAQ (see question 12) Dosai 4 July 2005 15:34 (UTC)

[edit] Survey instrument

The recently added Survey instrument to measure disaggregated corruption indicators certainly belongs linked from Wikipedia someplace, but unless ICCG uses this tool (and I don't think they do), I'm not sure it should be linked from this article about a rather specific index. It should be linked from a more general article, maybe political corruption? We don't seem to have an article that is precisely about corruption (political and corporate), let alone one on the topic of measuring or analyzing corruption, where it would naturally go. I guess we should leave it in the article for now, but if it finds a more natural home, that would be better. -- Jmabel | Talk 01:18, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Again, a possible effort by TI to control Wikipedia's coverage of them

New article: Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI). As it stands, this is not properly a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is not supposed to simply reprint a groups's FAC. Either this is a copyvio, or we have permission to quote from it, and should, but should write our own article. Or perhaps this should be viewed as a POV fork of Index of perception of corruption? In any case, it is not OK in its present form. I'm raising the issue here because this is a longstanding related article that people interested in the subject probably have watchlisted. -- Jmabel | Talk 08:17, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

I've now cleaned that up and moved it to Corruption Perceptions Index. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:40, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed merge

I believe this should be merged to Corruption Perceptions Index. That's its official English-language name. The present title came about because I was translating a Spanish-language article, and was unaware of the official English-language name. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:40, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Preparing for the future...

How about adding another column for the year 2006? --Bruin rrss23 10:00, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

This is a bridge easier crossed when we come to it.—Kbolino 04:45, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Post-merger discussion

[edit] Where is 2004?

This article references the 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2005 surveys. Is there any particular reason to exclude 2004? It makes it seem as though no survey was conducted that year.—Kbolino 04:45, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] File size

As of the date of my signature, the article reports as being 49 kilobytes in length. A good portion of this is the data table, which consumes around 46,200 bytes (about 45.1 KB). This is just FYI, in case anyone is confused where the size comes from.—Kbolino 04:49, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is there any Alternative index?

I live in a country that would be considered notoriously corrupt had only the definition been:

"the abuse of public office for political gain"

Isn't there any index for that?

This country is within the top-10 on this CPI, which makes myself question the confidence in the index,
as many times private gain and political gain go hand in hand.

82.209.134.134 10:48, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

The index is certainly controversial. But I don't know another group who are trying to do anything comparable. -- Jmabel | Talk 03:47, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hate to be stupid, but...

... is a higher score good or bad? Since I can't be bothered to do serious research into this topic (that's what Wikipedia's for, dammit) I think it might be a valuable addition. It might seem obvious, but then so does the first sentence of the The Matrix article...

A higher score means less (perceived) corruption. I've now added that to the article. - Jmabel | Talk 04:28, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protestant, Germanic lingual bias

What's the deal? Look at the map. How very Nazi indeed. IP Address 14:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What are contributing factors to avoid corruption?

Interesting that Argentina has such a low score while its neighbors Chile and Uruguay are the best in Latin America. Anyone have any ideas why such a disparity? What are the contributing factors in avoiding corruption? Why are Chile and Uruguay successful and Argentina not? Vivaldi4Stagioni 21:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Latest ranking (2006) published by Transparency Index

http://www.transparency.org/news_room/latest_news/press_releases/2006/en_2006_11_06_cpi_2006

http://www.transparency.org/news_room/in_focus/cpi_2006/cpi_table

Chanakyathegreat 05:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UPDATE NEW:Survey 2006

Transparency International(global coalition again coruption) [[1]]

please finish the page.

thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.124.36.42 (talk • contribs) 15 November 2006.

[edit] Do you have any idea why the 2004 survey is omitted from the table?

I have seen it like this for a long time. Are there any particular reasons why it is excluded from the table, or just because no one filled it there? Being excluded from the table implies that there's something wrong with that year survey. kinkku ananas ^(talk) 12:00, 30 November 2006 (UTC)