User talk:Cop 633

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[edit] unreferenced template

Please don't put this template at the top of an article, the majority of people suggest that a references section be created and the template put there, or on the talk page -- see the template instruction - the people who wrote that article are long gone and putting a nag tag up there is not going to encourage new users to fix the problem - in fact it will encourage readers to discount the article as being untrustworthy. I did not read anything in the article that is clearly wrong or bad, unless you have evidence that the article needs such a strong statement against its validity, there is no reason to kill it with a nag tag at the top. If there are things in the article you think are flat out wrong, then remove them. -- Stbalbach 16:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, I just added my vote: and now the majority (such as it is) is in favor of putting it at the top! [1] The article may well be wonderful and entirely factual. Or it could be a mixture of known facts, half-remembered facts, speculations, undergraduate C-grade essays and fanboy droolings, like most of the film articles on this site. We'll never be sure until someone adds references, and this failing needs to be visible. Cop 633 17:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criterion Collection infoboxes

Hey. Please stop adding more of these infoboxes and participate in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films#Criterion Collection infoboxes. So far, nobody there, or at WP:AN, has supported the inclusion of these. Thanks, Prolog 12:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A follow up note on the CC

Hello Cop 633 and Doctor Sunshine. I wanted to touch base with you since some time has gone by and nobody has responded to our last posts on the Wikiproject films page about this subject. First off, I know that you both like these and I suspect that may feel that I have been a pest about this subject. I must apologize because that was not my intention. My first motivation was to try and prevent the bummed out feeling that can happen when one does a ton of work only to have it all deleted. This was based on having had it happen to me and on having seen the Criterion Collection deleted as a category twice before. Knowing how much work was going to go into posting the box on all of the CC's films pages, and wanting to catch it as soon as possible, I had posted a note on the talk page of an administrator who had deleted the category once before on October 24th. There was no response form the person. Then an anonymous user began deleting the boxes and leaving a rather emphatic edit summary about it. That was when you began restoring them, Doctor Sunshine. Knowing that you were working away Cop 633, and suspecting that the reasons that had been given to delete the category before would more than likely be used to, eventually, remove your boxes I then went to the wikiproject films page to try to get some movement on the subject. I had hoped that someone in charge there would contact you, but I realize now that I should have done so from the start so I also apologize for that rudeness. The somewhat slow nature of the filmproject people to this now makes me feel that, if I hadn't brought it up maybe nobody would have and that all I have done is rain on your parade and I just want to say again that was not my intention.

I do appreciate the Criterion Collection's product and have made several postings at IMDb trying to point out that the price of their releases is more that offset by the cost of, and the research to both restore the films AND find all of the extraordinary extras that appear on, their DVD's when compared to most other companies product. To that end I want to further the one of the suggestions that was made at the wikifilm project page about adding a DVD release section to the films in question. I think it would be easy to include a link to the List of Criterion Collection releases when mentioning them, along with ony other comapnies that may have released the film, in the body of that section, thereby leading readers to all of their films and not just the one that comes before and the one after the number on the spine and avoiding the look of pushing their product over others.

One last thing. If, in the proposed new section, you do mention the extras on their discs (and they ARE worth mentioning. I mean have either of you seen the four or five interviews with Truffuat about his film Jules and Jim which were recorded over the space of 15 or 20 years? It is fascinating to watch his appreciation of his own film deepen over time. Also, before I forget it, have you seen the new subtitles on the recent release of Seven Samurai? I have seen this film more than 80 times in my life yet these gave me so much more of the film that it was as though I had never truly experienced it before) I would suggest that you only list two or three of the most important ones, as listing them all may smack of advertising their product again.

As to removing the boxes you have already entered, as nobody else seems to be in a hurry about it I won't interfer. Maybe you could remove them as you finish a DVD paragraph for each film.

Onc last time my apologies for any hurt feelings and keep up the good work that you are both doing here at wikipedia. Thanks for your time and attention and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 16:30, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

No worries dude, no feelings were hurt. I'm too lazy to remove the boxes in a systematic way, but if I come across them in the future I will zap them and will definitely start adding more DVD details to film articles that I work on. Thanks for taking your time to think hard about this stuff. Cop 633 16:47, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
You're welcome and thanks for your note, too. MarnetteD | Talk 01:03, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Awarded films country

Hi Cop 633, I just read your comment in Palm d'Or. I hadn't noticed before this part, so I was a bit surprized to see the countries gone. Then I got it. I had also noticed and in most of the years in film articles I have gone ahead and added as many countries as I find in IMDb, so a record exists there. Yet I did the same for some Academy awarded ones. Is this wrong there? If so I will just let the applying country only (as stated in the Acad. articles. Hoverfish 07:00, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello Hoverfish - I don't quite understand your question... could you rephrase it? I'm not quite sure which articles you're asking about. Sorry if I'm being stupid. Cop 633 14:29, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I was refering to the series of year-in-film articles as in 1999_in_film#Awards. You will notice that in the series, I have given all the countries IMDb gives. Yet, as you mentioned in Talk:Palme d'Or#Country, Academy Award considers only the country that applied, right? So I was wondering if in Academy awards I should be mentioning only the applying one. I know I am getting way too involved in details, but I have to take me as I am. Does some good to the lists, at least. Hoverfish 14:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, I see. Perhaps you would still say that All About My Mother is from 'Spain/France' but then say in brackets something like '(submitted on behalf of Spain)', to show that it was Spain that got the award, not France. Does that sound right? P.S. never apologise for obsessing over details, there isn't enough of it about! Cop 633 14:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I want to avoid long lines, so maybe I'll add (submitted) or (awarded) after the country. Hoverfish 15:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

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