Template talk:Context

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[edit] "Context"

The link to the word "context" on this template just goes to a disambiguation page with a dicdef on it. It's basically akin to saying "read the dictionary, you newbies, and learn what the word context means." Until some Wikipedia:Context comes along that explains precisely why articles need context (this would be a very good idea), I'm going to remove the link. --Ardonik.talk()^* 19:57, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Guide to layout link

It might be useful to put a link to the Wikipedia:Guide to layout on the context template. Articles with the context tag often have a terrible layout and formatting. I think the guide is a better link than the Wikipedia:Manual of style because it is more concise. This way the authors of the articles may be able to do some of the work themselves, if they don't know how. What do you guys think? -- Kjkolb 07:25, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Using subst:context, Noinclude

The section inside the <noinclude> segment shows up when you use the {{subst:context}} structure. Is there a way to fix that? Also, using {{subst:context}} doesn't categorize the article that it's applied to. The Literate Engineer 03:07, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, don't use {{subst}} for it :) Stifle 17:46, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please add category sort key

This template is protected. It needs a sort key added to the category link, so

[[Category:Wikipedia maintenance templates]]

needs to change to

[[Category:Wikipedia maintenance templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]

– Doug Bell ^{talk•contrib} 01:07, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Or better off, please unprotect this page. Stifle 20:01, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Edit done. As for unprotecting it, that's not going to happen, as this is a high-risk template. howcheng {chat} 07:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd argue that, as it is included on exactly 18 pages at this time. Thanks for sorting the edit, though. Stifle 16:12, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request

Done. howcheng {chat} 00:20, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

After the edit, the template adds articles to Category:Wikipedia articles needing clarification, instead of Category:Wikipedia articles needing context. This is indeed what Stifle requested above, but I doubt whether this was really his/her intention. Besides, the <noinclude> explanation at the bottom was not changed. Could either of you please clarify? -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 15:19, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Why is this template not editable? -- Reinyday, 17:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Somebody decided that it is a high-risk template, and high-risk templates are protected.

I suppose the reasoning is as follows. The template is used on over a thousand pages. If the template were not protected, somebody could edit it and include an indecent or inflammatory picture and so very easily deface a thousand Wikipedia articles. Since we know from experience that such puerile people exist, it has been decided to put some protection in place.

O, I see you are actually an experienced Wikipedian, so you probably already know most of it. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 17:52, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Simplifications needed

IMHO this template looks awful, due to its use of changes in font sizes and its unnecessary line breaks. I also think some minor wording changes are warranted. Here's an alternative I'd like to suggest:

or this:

for comparison, here's the current version:

Thanks. 69.3.70.28 22:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC).

I don't really see why. The linebreaks clearly separate the concept of cleanup and needing more context. Stifle (talk) 00:43, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Newer proposal

I think it would be better to completely remove the sentence about the page requiring cleanup. It is distracting. The focus of this template should be on the phrase "The introduction to this article provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject matter.", and that text should come first.

My suggested version:

--Srleffler 04:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I added the note above a couple of months ago, but there has been no response. I made the corresponding change in some of the other cleanup templates (which were not edit protected), and it seems to have "stuck" there. Would an admin either implement this change or discuss it? (Why is this template edit-protected, anyway? Surely it is not more highly used than say {{wikify}}--Srleffler 04:32, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, done. The template was protected because it's heavily used; see Wikipedia:High-risk templates. I'm not familiar with this procedure. If you think that it should be unlocked, you can try to request unprotection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 04:57, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Two minor edits needed

As mentioned on Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup, the code

<includeonly>[[Category:Wikipedia articles needing context]]</includeonly>

should be replaced with

<includeonly>{{{category|[[Category:Wikipedia articles needing context]]}}}</includeonly>

so that the template can be used on instruction pages without putting the instruction page into the category.

Also, the "See also" list for this template includes {{context}} itself. Kickaha Ota 14:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Done--Commander Keane 17:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed edit

<div class="messagebox cleanup metadata plainlinks">
{| style="width:100%;background:none"
|width=60px|[[Image:Information_icon.svg|40px]]
|The introduction to this article provides '''insufficient context''' for those unfamiliar with the subject matter.<br />
<small>Please help [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit}} improve the introduction]
to meet Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Guide to layout|layout standards]]. You can discuss the issue on the
[[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|talk page]].</small>
|}</div><includeonly>{{{category|[[Category:Wikipedia articles needing context]]}}}</includeonly><noinclude>
----
This template will categorise tagged articles into [[:Category:Wikipedia articles needing context]].

* This [[Wikipedia:Template|template]] is a [[Wikipedia:Avoid self-references|self-reference]].
* Please do not [[Wikipedia:Subst|subst:]] this template.

==See also==
* [[Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup]]
[[Category:Wikipedia maintenance templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]
</noinclude>

Which looks like this:

The introduction to this article provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject matter. Please help improve the introduction to meet Wikipedia's layout standards. You can discuss the issue on the talk page.

This template will categorise tagged articles into Category:Wikipedia articles needing context.

• This template is a self-reference.
• Please do not subst: this template.

[edit] See also

• Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup

-- PatrickFisher 18:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I made the proposed wording/linking changes, but I did not add the icon, which doesn't have consensus. See below. Thanks, Renesis (talk) 23:14, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comments on proposed version

Can you explain why it should be changed? In particular, why do you want to introduce an icon? The template already grabs the reader's attention. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 08:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. These messages have to attract the attention of editors without distracting readers from the article. I think on balance it's better now than it would be with a picture in it – Gurch 14:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)