Talk:Consent (BDSM)

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[edit] First approximations: --Firewheel 18:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Scratchboard for my first thoughts and reactions.

Buzzwords and concepts:

Consent. Meta-Consent Negotiation Ethics.

EXplicit negotiation of relationships by individuals within a culture rather than reationships IMplicitly defined by the culture, even when those relationships seem outwardly identical to some expected cutural norm:

For example:

• Consenting to wear a burkah as a sign of submission - OK.
• Being forced to wear a burkah because family will murder you if you do not - NOT ok.

NOTE: BDSM ethics generalize to society in general better than the other way around. That's why they were developed. When people do this stuff without our ethics, they are generally harmed in some way.

Ethics developed to meet real needs in ethical ways without harm to self or others.

"Never assume, never presume." (a motto oft observed in the breech...)

Here endith my brainstorming. --Firewheel 18:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Ethics are all important agreed on that.

However, the text states that 'Slave contract" is often used' I would rather say its quite rare. Of about 200 BDSM

practitioners I know only one have had a contract in the past and one other was suggested to have one but declined.

There are negotiations, but verbal ones. Over time there are none for example for couples who know each others well.

I took the liberty to change that to the more neutral 'sometimes' instead. Also added one ending about safeword, to show

that all this actually are a kind of advanced roleplay where one parter can decide to stop the roleplay at any time.

Then again there are a small number who decide to go without the safeword, but I felt that would complicate the description.