Talk:Conifer, Colorado

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[edit] NPOV Discussion

New to the NPOV tags so put this one up to discussion. Problems I have with this article stem from this entry:

Until recently, mostly local businesses were "mom and pop" stores, such as Aspen Park Drug. But within the last year construction on a new King Soopers was completed, along with the completion of a Wendy's, QDoba, and a Quiznos. Recent construction is bringing a new Safeway across Highway 285 from where the current one sits. The developments have forced some long established local businesses to close. These projects have been a source of controversy in the community, with some people wanting the conveniences of a more urban lifestyle while others wish to preserve the unique rural character traditionally found in Conifer. Most mountain area residents who prefer a more urban lifestyle choose to live in the nearby community of Evergreen. The struggle between the two views of development have played out over 20 years in the community, most notably in the battles over various versions of a proposed recreation district. All four recreation district proposals have been defeated by popular vote, suggesting that most residents still prefer the unique rural character over urban convenience. Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conifer%2C_Colorado"

Where to start? I think it is definitely anti-growth and in some places just plain wrong. I'd like to add more by my time is limited. -- EnsRedShirt 05:58, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

The NPOV guidelines instruct NOT to raise the NPOV flag until AFTER the topic has been discussed.

I was looking to add/paraphrase this (found from http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/colorado/history.php): "A minor but alarming earthquake occurred in the north-central part of Colorado on November 1, 1981, at 8:03 p.m. MST. The magnitude 3.1 tremor was centered in the Evergreen area about 22 miles southwest of Denver. The effects registered MM V, and were experienced in the Conifer, Evergreen, and Pine Junction areas. It was also felt in other parts of Jefferson County and in parts of Clear Creek and Park Counties." -- 67.102.42.149 22:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Aside from this "talk" page, the real 'Conifer' page is now locked. For how long?! -- 67.102.42.149 22:49, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Back to the NPOV discussion, I find the article to be very fair and without opinion. What is it exactly that you find biased and without a basis in fact? The only thing I would change would be to replace the word 'recently' with an actual time period. -- 67.102.42.149 20:47, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

The Entire Paragraph above is anti-growth and not NPOV! I don't know of any local business that was forced to close. Aspen Park Drug closed due to not paying taxes. It's BS from the anti-growth crowd. When I find the time I will rewrite it, but until then people need to know it is NOT NPOV. And until you come out from hiding behind an IP address, I can't take any of your comments seriously. -- EnsRedShirt 06:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

ERS, I agree that the passage you quoted is NPOV. I added some wiki-format indentation and timestamps to this discussion to make the exchanges clearer and added some content to the article to fill it out. Eventually the the disputed content will fade as it's replaced with more neutral, well-cited information on the area's growth. Thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia. --Oddharmonic 07:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I've been meaning to do a rewrite for sometime.. It just keeps getting pushed down the to do list..EnsRedShirt 07:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)