Talk:Concert etiquette

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This is my first submistion for a new topic and mostly copied from my own web site www.helarc.com. Bits and pieces are from other articles but 99% of this has been paraphrased at this point. I don't know the line here. Credits from a long time ago are: Miss Manners, Western Michigan U., David Carlisle, Peter Smith. Pjay 17:47, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 This sounds very authoritarian 2 Less Preaching, More Teaching 3 Seriously? 4 Classical music concerts only 5 Addressing critiques above

[edit] This sounds very authoritarian

I will make sure to ignore every single one of these rules the next time I attend a bourgeoisie concert experience.

[edit] Less Preaching, More Teaching

As a concert musician myself, I see your point in including "accepted etiquette," but it is highly opinionated. First, I would advocate removing any part that seems to be "preaching" to the readers. This is an encyclopedia, not a soap box. In the same vein, it would be in good taste to present the other side of the issue, for example, with respect to applause. Alex Ross, music critic for the New Yorker, has amassed a great body of research on the historical changes in the frequency of applause in concert music and modern controversy over applause (see here). This material might make the article less gratingly biased and more neutral. --Ray thejake 23:27, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I tried to make it less bossy/authoritarian. I know the applause part is a over American, but I think the history of applause is another entry. Pjay 16:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Right now this article reads like an instruction manual, which is against WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information. The article should be describing concert etiquette rather than instructing what is considered "proper" protocol. --Madchester 17:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it is worth considering regional variations, as some of these "rules" (especially with regards to formality of clothing) are certainly not an issue in my neck of the woods (London) AlexBTMFM 00:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seriously?

This article just seems a little useless to me? Does it need to exist?

And if it does, can we change the name at least? The title is far too vague; I think most people associate "concert" with "rock concert". Capitan Obvio 15:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Classical music concerts only

The article seems to only cover classical music concerts. Contemporary music concerts are far more relaxed, indeed, some of the things the article forbids are expected. JIP | Talk 16:43, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Addressing critiques above

Hi, this article exhibits a kind of bipolar disorder due to its split authorship. When I found it it was a "Prescriptive" list of dos-and-don'ts at classical concerts, which some people might find very useful. When I added the "Overview" I tried get a more encyclopedic article covering different eras, genres and cultures. The result looks somewhat odd, but I'm not sure what a better way would be, or how to get there from here. Coughinink 04:10, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I think it reads much better than where it started, thanks! As for references, at this point, no part of it is copied that I can see. Pjay 12:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)