User talk:Combination/archive3

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Contents 1 Streets of rage template 2 OutRun screenshots 3 F-Zero (series) 4 RTCW MP 5 "First-person shooters" redundant category? 6 Tribes Aerial Assault cover 7 Marvel vs. Capcom series 8 Template:Devil May Cry series 9 Template: Rolling Thunder video games 10 mame.net vs. mamedev.org 11 Rescaling images 12 Image:F355-jpnflyer.jpg 13 Zarlor Mercenary Image 14 "No source" tagging 15 Requesting rationale for images 16 Nice Wikibreak infobox 17 {{no rationale}} tagging 18 Your edit to Extreme Gear 19 Castlevania Legends 20 Elite edit using AWB 21 Turtles in Time images 22 Edits on SimCity and SimCity 2000 23 AWB stuff 24 Cute

[edit] Streets of rage template

Heya,

I think removing the "Streets of Rage" for all the titles was a bit unneccesary (yeah, I read the discussion that preceded it) since the box looks comically empty, and it is unlikely that there will be more games, but okay.

What I really wanted to ask was why the v-d-e links seem to point to the wrong place in all the four articles that include the box. What's up with that?

-- Truncated 17:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I had forgotten to subst {{PAGENAME}} with the actual name of the template in question. It should be working as intended now. Combination 17:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] OutRun screenshots

I see you ripped out all the screenshots from the OutRun page claiming that they are not fair use.

Is it Wikipedia policy to remove all computer game screen shots now or is this something that was discussed elsewhere?

DamienG 08:53, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Right, I've found your fairuse page where you attempt to explain and justify this but it still seems vague. Is it your intention to remove every screenshot of a game, film, TV show, cover art and every other single "fair use" image on wikipedia? I fear there will be little left.

Can you also explain why the Contra series page you work on is fine to have lots of these fair use images but other people's articles are not?

You say discusssing removal would be too time consuming but are quite happy to wipe out these images which take the uploaders a LOT longer time to get an environment up and running, to progress to that point in the game and then to take a screenshot. DamienG 09:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

As for contradicting myself, I have little involvement in that specific Contra article. But that will have to be dealt with as well because the screenshots are not illustrating points within the text, but merely serving a decorative purpose. See WP:FUC for a full list of criteria. Combination 13:27, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] F-Zero (series)

I hope those bots fix most of those redirects! FullMetal Falcon 00:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RTCW MP

I don't think you should have completely removed everything relating to Return to Castle Wolfenstein MP. There is a lot of depth to that portion of the game and it entirely overshadowed the single player mode.

EkoThree 17:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't disagree, but if there's anything I omitted that may be of value, please add it to Return to Castle Wolfenstein's multiplayer chapter instead. Combination 18:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Well I think there is a lot that was of value in the removed version. Specifically, the community surrounding Wolf, the competitive play, MP Modding, Custom Map building with GTK Radient, WolfTV, CVAR Hacking and PunkBuster... not to mention the extremely different types of game play surrounding ULTL and OLTL. I still think it is worth mentioning that WolfMP was one of the first online FPS games that made classes a popular commodity in FPS MP.

Perhaps we can reevaluate making a seperate section for WolfMP? EkoThree 20:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "First-person shooters" redundant category?

I noticed that you removed the "First-person shooters" category from both Starsiege: Tribes as well as Tribes 2, with the statement that it is redundant. As far as I can see neither of those articles belong to another category with the same scope, nor was the category entry replaced with a different category. I'm curious what you meant by "redundant". -- Y|yukichigai 22:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Category:Tribes is a subcategory of Category:First-person shooters. Apologies for the confusion. Combination 22:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tribes Aerial Assault cover

Hi, I noticed you replaced en:Image:TribesAerialAssaultUSAandEurocover.jpg with en:Image:Tribes Aerial Assault.jpg, which you sourced and uploaded yourself in the Tribes Aerial Assault article. Why did you do that? The only differences between the two images are that one shows both European and American covers and the other shows the American cover only, and that the American cover image is slightly lower in resolution. If you thought the resolution wasn't low enough to justify a fair-use tag, why didn't you just resample the existing image to lower res and uploaded it as a new version? I've un-orphaned the old image for now, since I don't know if this discussion will be over within 7 days. Please tell me what you think. —Cohen the Bavarian 17:27, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

We generally only allow one single cover for identification within the CVG space, and the montage you're referring to has no source information. Creating a derivate work from that is not acceptable by any means as we're not able to disclose any information regarding its origin (we are required by policy to do so - see WP:IUP for further information). Additionally, fair use images may never be included as part of a montage either, as their status depends on use in the context of an article.

The cover I uploaded may not be ideal but it serves the purpose adequately. Hope that helps. Combination 17:47, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I see the problem, but still would like to see both cover images represented if possible. I don't know about the limitations of the Infobox CVG template, though; does it allow multiple images? If so, two different fair-use images from identifiable origins could be used with no need for a user-created montage. Or would a new montage be permissible if it provided sources for the two combined covers? I have too little experience with the intricacies of fair-use image usage on wikipedia to know how "grey-area" this solution would be. —Cohen the Bavarian 09:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

It's quite flexible and does allow for more than one image, but for the purpose of identification we need only one image as to keep fair use at a minimum (as per item #3 of WP:FUC). However, multiple images may be acceptable if the article is covering multiple games (such as with Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire). Combination 12:43, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marvel vs. Capcom series

• Prod templates should not be replaced if removed. If you still think the article should be deleted, please create an AfD. Danny Lilithborne 03:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Oops, you're right. Combination 12:46, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Devil May Cry series

My rationale for putting all the characters back on the template was that the new CVG guidelines say that we should put lists instead of specific articles, but we don't HAVE lists. To be more correct, would you be in favour of having the four main characters appear in the box, and creating List of minor characters in Devil May Cry? I'd imagine the article would have each character's name and brief description, as well as a link to their article, if applicable. Firestorm 21:23, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Technically, you don't need an umbrella article (but if one is available, use it) and I believe the four principal characters were present in the previous design. Combination 21:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, they were, but the other were also there. I took the coding that I pasted into the new version from the one just before you started making the new edits. Firestorm 21:46, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

The other characters were merged with their respective title as they were barely notable by WP:FICT guidelines. Combination 21:54, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template: Rolling Thunder video games

Thanks for your help, [1] but how would I be able to transclude the template onto the Rolling Thunder (video games) pages? Template is currently on my user page. (FF7SquallStrife7 04:09, 4 November 2006 (UTC))

Simply copy and paste the code into Template:Rolling Thunder series, and then add, to the bottom of each article, the following: {{Rolling Thunder series}} ~ Combination 13:13, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again. I created placed my template Template: Rolling Thunder series on the Rolling Thunder video games pages. (FF7SquallStrife7 06:23, 6 November 2006 (UTC))

[edit] mame.net vs. mamedev.org

Where did you find the information that mamedev.org is now the homepage of M.A.M.E.? It looks to me that mamedev.org is still the development-centric page while mame.net remains the homepage of the M.A.M.E project itself. Please post a link to some official mame documentation/forum post which states that mamedev.org now replaces mame.net. Darkstar 19:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Your wish is granted. Clickity click. Combination 20:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rescaling images

I noticed you rescaled the Rise of Legends box I tagged. I was wondering what software do you use for it? I've tried with Microsoft Paint but it doesn't turn out good. Do you use a freely downloadable one? Thunderbrand 15:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm using Photoshop CS2 for most of my work but GIMP works very well, and it's completely free. I'd also suggest using bicubic interpolation for scaling as it preserves detail better than the predominant bilinear algorithm. I don't think MS Paint interpolates at all, which might explain the poor results. Combination 15:47, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Irfanview is a lightweight freeware utility for Windows that also works well for resizing images. jaco♫plane 20:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:F355-jpnflyer.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:F355-jpnflyer.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

1. Go to the image description page and edit it to add {{Replaceable fair use disputed}}
2. On the image discussion page, write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all.

Alternatively, you can also choose to replace the fair use image by finding a freely licensed image of its subject or by taking a picture of it yourself.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on this link. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. --– Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 18:18, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Also Image:Yusuzuki.jpg

[edit] Zarlor Mercenary Image

what is that thing you just added to the image I put on all about?? Govvy 22:28, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

A tag indicating that the image in question does not have rationale which explains why an image is permitted under the fair use clause. This is required for each and every fair use image we employ (particularly those uploaded after 4 May, this year) and it will, usually, look something like this:

== Rationale for fair use in [[some game]]==
# No free or public domain images have been located for this video game.
# The image is of lower resolution than the original cover. Copies made from it will be of inferior quality, and could not be used as artwork on illegal copies of this video  game.
# The image does not limit the copyright owners' rights to distribute the video game in any way.
# This is the artwork, intended by [[some publisher]] for wide distribution. As such, it has future historical significance, and is a more appropriate choice than any other image available.
# This image is used on various websites, so its use on Wikipedia does not make it significantly more accessible or visible than it already is.
# The cover is being used for informational purposes only, and its use is not believed to detract from the original video game in any way.

A practical example: Image:Grad5cover.jpg

I added to the summary of the Zarlor Mercenary boxshot image, hope it is now appropriate! Govvy 10:41, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "No source" tagging

Hi. You recently tagged Image:Super Metroid Mother Brain tank.png as having "no source". I didn't notice this immediately, since I don't have all images I've uploaded on my watchlist. It can be extremely frustrating when content one has added gets deleted without warning. It would be nice if you could notify the uploader when tagging an image for deletion. Thanks, Fredrik Johansson 13:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

OrphanBot usually takes care of that but I see it didn't work this time for some reason. Sorry about that. Combination 15:17, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting rationale for images

Hello,

By luck, I found your "lack of rationale/delete image" tag on a game cover I added to Wikipedia and rectified the issue (actually, by using the appropriate fair-use rationale I found above on this page, so thanks for that). In future, I would appreciate receiving a notification that a tag was placed so I can rectify the situation. At the very least a "questionable fair use" tag applied to the image on the article page would have been sufficient notification.

If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hestitate to contact me. -- Guroadrunner 20:40, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nice Wikibreak infobox

Might I compliment you on your excellent Wikibreak infobox header? ;-) Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:01, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I... errr... ahem... guilty as charged! Combination 13:00, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{no rationale}} tagging

(was titled: re Image:Untoldlegendsboxart.jpg)

You've tagged this as {{no rationale}} but the uploader had tagged it as {{Game-cover}}, doesn't that imply a fair use rationale? I'm just asking, I'm trying to learn this stuff. Thanks. Herostratus 17:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

You need to distinguish between license and rationale which details the purpose of the image and explains why it should be considered as fair use, i.e. why you need to use the image as part of the article. Combination 17:53, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Combination, you've tagged countless {{Game-cover}} images with {{no rationale}}. {{Game-cover}} is the rationale, not a license. Note that {{no rationale}} says: "However, it has no explanation as to why it is permitted under Wikipedia's rules for fair use" (emphasis mine). —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-11-20 21:58Z

Nope, {{Game-cover}} serves as the copyright/license tag, and it's one of many available from the Special:Upload page. While you're there, take a minute to read the instructions as well for future reference. Combination 22:04, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Extreme Gear

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[edit] Castlevania Legends

I have rehabilitated basic information on the stages and bosses as a single paragraph under the gameplay section. I hope that this will be a good compromise for keeping some of that info in a more encyclopedic format. I'll admit much of it was extraneous; such is the zeal of fans.--QuasarTE 00:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

You have my blessing :) Combination 00:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elite edit using AWB

Hi Combination. I've rolled back your recent edit to Elite, as the approach taken doesn't seem to match the suggested usage on the Infobox_CVG page. I could be wrong though, so I've started a discussion of the best approach on the Elite talk page. Best regards, --Oscarthecat 22:22, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Turtles in Time images

Hi. I noticed you disabled the category Category:Turtles in Time images and moved all the images to the category Category:Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles images. I think having a "Turtles in Time" subcategory makes sense, given the quantity of related images. You obviously disagree. I would like to understand your reasons for it. Thanks! -- Ritchy 23:24, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi, it's not a particularly meaningful categorization other than to separate a handful of images for a single video game and its ports. We normally only dedicate media hubs for entire series and platforms and I would think that approach might be more suitable at this point, unless of course the category expands greatly, in which case a subcategory might be useful. Combination 23:47, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edits on SimCity and SimCity 2000

Hello. Just curious to ask, is there anything wrong with comment headings in the categories? In the case of the SimCity [2] and SimCity 2000 [3] articles, the amount of categories may prove difficult for both editors and readers to sift through them if sorted by alphabetical order. The commented text are only there for ease of maintenance, and add a bit of organization in something that would otherwise be too chaotic. I don't believe that the comments have any negative impact on the actual output of the articles.

I'm also curious as to which interwiki sorting order AWB uses. Is it sorted by the local language? ╫ ２５ ^{◀RingADing▶} 19:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC) ╫

It's standard AWB behaviour, I'm not certain of the logic behind that particular operation. As for the comments, if you find them useful then re-add them. Cheers Combination 20:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, swift response too. Sorry if the tone of my message is somewhat crude. Cheers. :) ╫ ２５ ^{◀RingADing▶} 20:18, 25 November 2006 (UTC) ╫

Not all all. :) Combination 21:32, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AWB stuff

Good work on replacing the flags with superscripts. Also, I did see your reply to my question when you added it. Thunderbrand 04:36, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cute

I think that term is not objectively defined (and note that the relevant article is a redirect to Shoot-em-up). So yes, CFD would be appropriate. (Radiant) 12:55, 28 November 2006 (UTC)