Talk:Compass (consulting)

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[edit] Proposed deletion

> This vanity/publicity article violates Wikipedia rules. --User:Elonka, 22 September 2006 (UTC) ==

Sorry, lack of consistency in this view. I see that Ernst & Young LLP was just flagged, but not KPMG. Several entries for other consulting industry firms in this market segment are permitted (read and look at these Wiki entires -- they are more toward publicity or vanity as you comment than this article). Either delete ALL of them -- or NONE. Any other action by you could be considered against Wikipedia policies regarding neutrality. --User:beatgr 11:48, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

If they're all as unreferenced and self-promotional as this one, then yes, by all means, they should be nominated for deletion. Please provide a list, and I'll be happy to process the paperwork. In order to keep this one though, there need to be additional references to confirm notability per WP:CORP, instead of just the company's own website. We can give the article some time to breathe to further expand along those lines, but if third-party references aren't provided, I can pretty much guarantee that it'll just get nominated for deletion again. --Elonka 01:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Who is "we" - is this your opinion or are you working for a company or group? Unreferenced, self-promotional listings -- make up your own list, I don't work for you! For this listing -- "additional references", will be provided, unless you prefer CIO magazine, Wall Street Journal, or other publications. As far as corporate postings -- it is apparent that you have not had the time to scan Wikipedia to look, Try these WP:CORP: Clear Channel Communications (parent and hundreds of there individual media outlets), did you check your own publisher? How about this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MFJ_Enterprises --User:beatgr 11:00, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the references, they are very helpful. I also agree with you that the article on MFJ Enterprises deserves review, and I have tagged it accordingly. As for having the time to "scan Wikipedia", trust me, no one has the time to scan every individual article. We're currently at around 1.4 million articles and growing fast. This is very much a groupware effort, where everyone chips in as they can. I'm not an admin here, I'm just a volunteer helping out in different sections. My own attention to the Compass article was drawn not because I have any familiarity with the company whatsoever, but simply because the article set off maintenance flags since it was missing some required elements (like categories), and by the tone it's written in, it really looks like something that was written by someone who works for the company. This is a common problem on Wikipedia (see WP:AUTO). I also recommend that you review a page called Assume good faith. I'm honestly not here just to bust your chops -- I'm taking time to try and educate you on the nuances of Wikipedia culture, so that you can make stronger articles which will "stick". One of the least known things about Wikipedia, is that articles get deleted from it at a massive rate, sometimes hundreds per day. My suggestions to you here are designed to help you fix the article so that it doesn't get deleted, so I hope you can take them in the spirit with which they are intended. --Elonka 18:04, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I have found that there are more editors and critics on Wikipedia, than informed writers (this is not a good ratio). My priority - at this time -- is to finish biographies for American scientists, who have recently passed away in 2006. This Compass entry is related to Mr. Soderblom, and his previous accomplishments. There are also very few companies performing comparative analysis (an interesting field itself -- with no good Wiki entry - yet). I will get around to cleaning up this entry -- (I have done my share on Wiki), as you can see on my personal page. I have had to cut back my contributions, largely due to vandalism and snipping of high quality entries earlier this year -- that Wiki management was far too slow in responding to. --User:beatgr 16:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)