Talk:Come as You Are (Nirvana song)

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[edit] Old "Meanings" section removed

There is a sarcasm in this song that the previous author did not recognize. Please refer yourselves to one of the better Nirvana fan sites for better information on "Come As You Are"

Can we get some proof on the Killing Joke lawsuit? We seem to have one person claiming they won and another claiming they lost. -- LGagnon 06:25, Jan 29, 2005 (UTC)

From what I gather from news off the net, Killing Joke did not win any law suit against Nirvana for CAYA. Sources vary however, on whether an actual law suite was filed. Below I will give two links to sites on the subject:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/5936629/killingjoke?pageid=rs.Artistcage&pageregion=triple3&rnd=1108185308319&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.872 - Claims no such case was ever filed.

http://www.livenirvana.com/digitalnirvana/songguide/body6357.html?songid=18 - Claims a case came about, but that Killing Joke lost.

[edit] Found some backmasking lately?

One hidden message in this song when played backwards is "I love Satan, I'm there for Satan, I'm there for Satan", as you know from reading the backmasking article. I found something else later in the song as well: Played forwards (after long guitar solo):

  • Ry yeah
  • Memory yeah (x3)
  • And I swear that I don't have a gun
  • No I don't have a gun (x4)
  • Memory yeah (x2)

But played backwards, it sounds like:

  • I need money (x2)
  • I am, I am the worst coward (x4)
  • I am, I am the worst-Why...am I insane?
  • I need money (x3)
  • I need...

Believe me if you want, don't care if you don't CoolKatt number 99999

PS: I believe this proves Kurt Cobain's insanity.

This sounds utterly ridiculous and unprovable. You didn't even give a reference. I'm reverting your edit. -- LGagnon 00:38, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
Try it yourself, part of it is at www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/backmasking CoolKatt number 99999
A flash video is not a proper reference. Sorry, but you're going to have to find legit proof. -- LGagnon 20:57, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
Use a program that lets you reverse music, like I did CoolKatt number 99999

Backmasking is an urban legend, and all you can prove is that you think you heard such things when playing it backwards (which is POV). As I said before, get a reference or quit readding the info to the article. I am reverting it again, and I will do so if you put more backmasking info in without a proper reference. -- LGagnon 14:51, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

The info is also here: Backward message CoolKatt number 99999
To be more clear-A recently discovered sample of alleged backmasking is Nirvana's unusually optimistic song, "Come As You Are." When the main chorus is played backwards, it is claimed to say

"I love Satan, I'm there for Satan, I'm there for Satan.". From the backward message article linked above.

And that, too, is unsourced. For all I know, you may have added that yourself. -- LGagnon 16:02, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
Nope, was not me, that's where I got it from CoolKatt number 99999

To LGagnon: 1. Don't come up with speculations about whether there is a message or not incase you haven't play the song backward yourself yet. 2. There are many examples of backward messages that were officially intended. - Swed Simon

[edit] Not a Nirvana song!!

This is not actually a Nirvana song! It's an Elvis song that Nirvana did a cover of. Most people don't know this. - James Foster 17:54, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

My mistake, sorry! The above is totally full of crap. - James Foster 18:14, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hard Rock Magazine

There no reference cited for this. Whoever added it should also add a proper MLA-style (or similar style) reference for it. -- LGagnon 23:46, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lesser Known

Is there any reason why KJ are referred to here as "the lesser known band Killing Joke".. obviously they aren't as popular or as well known as Nirvana, but calling them this in this sentence makes it appear as if they were some ultra obscure local band that no-one has ever heard of that crawled out of the woodwork simply to sue Nirvana and maybe make a quick buck... 213.202.149.42 13:55, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Come As You Are

Is the "Canadian worker-owned sex shop" Come As You Are really notable enough to warrant a link at the top of this page? After the song page was moved here "Come As You Are" became a redirect. Then someone added the sex shop stuff. I fixed dozens of links to Come As You Are that were supposed to go here, and there wasn't a single link that was meant for the sex shop. -Jon Stockton 21:06, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I find the sex shop article questionable too. It is nowhere near as notable as this song, and might be astroturfing by someone involved in it. Either way, this article deserves top mention, not the sex shop. -- LGagnon 03:51, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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