Talk:Colchester County, Nova Scotia

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142.177.41.88 23:09 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)I'm artson, the editor for http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/Canada/Nova_Scotia and I wrote the bulk of this for DMOZ, or copied it from the Provincial Archives (in the public domain), then entered it here. Use it at will.

Also note that I wrote the other county descriptions for Nova Scotia in the same manner.

Also please note that the Open Directory Project asserts a copyright for anything written by one of their editors, but as the material is from the public domain in Canada (and modified by me), I can hardly see how they may do that. Sue the original publisher of the Provincial Archives in Nova Scotia, Canada maybe? User:Artson

Are you sure that they assert a copyright for anything written by one of their editors? If so, please could you point me to the place where they say that? The licence says that Netscape owns the copyright to the compilation, but I don't think this is quite the same thing. The way in which the articles are organised is something in addition to the articles themselves. Or something like that. On the other hand, if it's true that you've somehow signed away the copyright to the material you contributed, then I don't think we can keep it here... -- Oliver P. 00:26 20 Jul 2003 (UTC)


Seems to me what the safest thing to do is start with the public domain source again and then modify in a different way than was used for the ODP. Use synonyms, change sentence structure around, that kind of thing. -- ESP 05:35 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Wha...? We've got explicit permission from the author to use it on Wikipedia. Unless the author is lying to us, we can use it on Wikipedia. meta:avoid copyright paranoia. Martin
The point is that the author himself asserted that he might not own the copyright on his own work. (See his third paragraph above.) The relevant question is whether or not we have permission from the copyright holder, not whether or not we have permission from the author. I suspect that in this case they're one and the same, and this is all a big misunderstanding, but since it was the author himself that brought up the assertion that they might not be, I'm not sure we should just dismiss it. -- Uncle Oliver 00:57 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)
This is extremely amusing and kind of disconcerting. They are both open content licenses, and their intent (as with the NPL/MPL/GPL) was that they be compatible. I think the author is wrong. He owns the copyright to anything which he tangibly produces until he gives it up--which he has, to us. (BTW, IANAL.)
I will read the license. But it looks like nobody is going to delete it. The GFDL like all GNU licenses, I presume, says that if the original copyright holder (which would be him) releases it, it is released. AOL cannot treat his volunteer work as an employer's work.. they just can't. (If you work for DMOZ, and were doing it on their time, that changes the issue.)
Also, I cast my vote for cooperation. We give attribution to FOLDOC when we use it as well as other sources, but in this case, I do not believe it is neccessary to use a copyright notice.
--Sam
psuedolegal@paperlessconscience.com
The EFF would be an excellent consult in this matter as would the FSF.

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