Talk:Clone High

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To-do list for Clone High: edit · history · watch · refresh
  • Complete subarticles for each episode (including plot details, etc.)
  • Expand controversy section
  • Create articles for writers, director, and voice actors
  • Add details about the main characters

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[edit] Too many Quotes!

The Quotes section is taking up way to much space. I like the quote section but I vote it gets moved to its own page on Wikiquote. jerkmonkee 05:11, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Done, I transwikied it. savidan(talk) (e@) 05:38, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging List of Clone High episodes into this article

What is your opinion on this? jerkmonkee 05:11, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Support: There are only 13. I wouldn't normally support but since more are unlikely to be created... savidan(talk) (e@) 05:29, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
I went ahead and did this. Be bold i guess. savidan(talk) (e@) 06:13, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Joan is listed as goth. I've seen every episode more than once, and I can't see why she would be called that, so I removed it. Yincrash 7 July 2005 06:09 (UTC)

Yeah, in all of the Clone High promo lit, they always refer to Joan as a "goth" but I don't see it either. The interesting thing though is that Joan actually refers to herself as a "goth" in the ADD episode when she is talking to Jesus Cristo.


What was the original air date for this series? And in what country? Rmhermen 13:35, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)

original airdate: November 2002 in Canada

I'm sure there have been many Bangsian fantasy (excellent phrase, I shall be using it more often) shows before, including House of Rock [1], but we don't seem to have an article on that. Anyway, calling Clone High "arguably the first" smacks a bit of lazy writing, but whatever. sjorford →•← 22:56, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This article should at least acknowledge the controversy over the portrayal of Ghandi. It may or may not have contributed to the end of the show.--Feitclub 15:16, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)

I added what little facts I could find about the uproar. --Feitclub 22:19, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)

A frame grab revealed that the foster parents were, in fact, frozen with the clones. --TheBismarck

[edit] DVD Release

Nelvana & Teletoon are planning a DVD release of the series in canada, although the release date is not yet avaiable. Press release

Any news about the DVD release? I know that it was supposed to be released around September 20th or so.

Yeah, I own it, and live in the US. Amazon.ca shipped out pre-orders right on time, though it looks like they're a little back ordered now. It's two discs, uses a one minute intro instead of the 36 second intro that was on TV, and for the ep. where Ponce dies, they don't have the normal intro, instead of the vocals-only intro. There's also a French audio track, which is weird (to me, anyways). There are some special features which aren't too interesting, IMHO. Curious about anything else? Maybe I should do a section write-up about the set...hmm. Nebula 00:58, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. And yeah, if you have the time you should put up something about the DVD release, especially since the suits will never bless Clone High with another season, and this is the last shot in the arm it will ever get.

[edit] Bangsian fantasy?

Umm, I just read that article, which describes it as "the school of fantasy writing that sets the plot wholly or partially in the afterlife". Just because Clone High features historical figures (and arguably not even that, just characters that incorporate aspects of them for humorous ends) doesn't make it Bangsian in any fashion. It's not in any sort of afterlife setting; in fact there are plenty of references to assume it's taking place in our time (or a "walking now", rather). I've removed this description unless anyone can explain to me how it's supposed to apply. 82.92.119.11 28 June 2005 11:05 (UTC)


How about this. A Bangsian fantasy is "school of fantasy writing that sets the plot wholly or partially in the afterlife". So there are two parts: characters and setting. The characters would include dead people. Clone High has many dead people. The second part is that it must be set wholly or partially in the afterlife. Clone High is set in the "present" day and time. So it seems to me that you could still include the term "Bangsian Fantasy" if you qualified its use, and a reasonable qualification would be that it is a modern variation on the genre of the Bangsian Fantasy where science has removed the necesity of any supernatural reason why dead people are interacting with each other.

I agree with the above person. If not traditionally Bangsian, I think it's an modern take on Bangsian Fantasy. As user User:82.92.119.11|82.92.119.11] hasn't commented further, I will assume he/she concedes the point.

But they're not dead. They're living, breathing clones. They don't possess the memories and knowledge of the people they are cloned from. They are not those people. Apofisu 17:55, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

They don't have the memories and knowledge of the people they're cloned from, but they do know the history of their clonefathers, and often try to live up to them (Abe at least frequently thinks what the original Abe would have done). And when Abe ran against JFK for school president, I think that indicates that there's at least strong relationships between the clones' lives and those of the original historic figures. Not a Bangsian fantasy by the original definition, but I think it is an updated version of Bangsian fantasy. -Baiter

[edit] External Links

I've moved the following links here:

If you think these links fit in with the external links guidelines, please discuss it here first. brenneman(t)(c) 07:23, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Memorable Quotes and Characters

I added new sections for memorable quotes and cast. Please add to the mix

[edit] Characters

I think that we should maintain a list of the following characters: Abe, Joan, Ghandi, JFK, Cleo, Principal, Vice Principal, and possibly that CIA agent guy. The others should be moved to List of Clone High minor characters. I'll perform this myself since its obvious that we are going to have to farm this part of the article out in the long term but if I'm wrong about who the major characters are (I've only seen a few episodes) feel free to add some more characters to this article. savidan(talk) (e@) 05:40, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


Chris Miller could not have voiced any of these charecters or created the show due to the fact that he is dead. if you recall he was one of the original writers for National Lampoon and committed suicide after Animal House was made.

Chris Miller is not dead. Check his IMDB page [2]. Quacks Like a Duck 20:29, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

The Chris Miller who wrote for National Lampoon may be dead. The Chris Miller who wrote for Clone High is not. Be careful, because currently the only writer Chris Miller who has a page on Wikipedia is the National Lampoon Chris Miller. --Gpollock 04:49, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dolphins

I was unable to find a dolphin in episodes 1 or 3. I hope the article reflects that without constituting original research. savidan(talk) (e@) 17:01, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Controversy

The hunger strikes in India were regarded as one of the reasons the show was cancelled after the otherwise popular first season. Can we get a source for this? Especially since the show is officially "on hiatus", not "cancelled"? Max22 07:39, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Intro

Hi, my name's gpollock. I'm not sure if this is a normal thing to do, but I thought I should introduce myself. I'm a big fan of Clone High, but I've been noticing that almost all of the Wikipedia articles about it (especially the specific episode pages) seem woefully incomplete. So I'm trying to fix them a bit; by copy editing the plot descriptions, and adding trivia, more song lyrics, and 'Feautred Clones' section.

Also, because of the additions I've been making, I've gradually been removing 'stub' status from the articles. (I'm not sure if this is bad form. If it is, please don't hesitate to yell at me.) So far, I've removed 'stub' status from Sleep of Faith: La Rue D'Awakening, Homecoming: A Shot in D'Arc, Plane Crazy: Gate Expectations, and A Room of One's Clone: Pie of the Storm. I'll update here if I take 'stub' status off any other Clone High articles. --Gpollock 02:16, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Update: Hi guys. I'm sure you've noticed I've been making a lot of changes to the Clone High episode pages. If you're wondering, I am actually building towards something and there actually is an end in sight (at least for the work I want to get done in the immediate future). I wanted to get the big stuff done first (rewriting Episode walkthroughs, adding Trivia, adding Featured Clones). Anyway, now I'm just trying to clean everything up, make sure all the pages have all the information I can find, and that everything's organised nicely. As a test run, I finished up Episode 3, A.D.D.: The Last 'D' is for Disorder. Please have a look and tell me what you think. Also, if you want to help out with the other episodes, you are more than welcome. Thanks. --Gpollock 03:53, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Further update:' Well, I've gone through all of the episode pages and made all the major changes I wanted to... at least for now. Nothing is ever finished on wikipedia, eh? Ah well. If all will allow me, I'm going to scratch off "Complete subarticles for each episode (including plot details, etc.)" from the todo list, because they seem to qualify as 'complete' (-ish?). Now, character pages, and main page, and beyond. And please, if you think I'm doing something horrible, or if you feel something needs to be changed, don't hesitate to leave an angry all-caps message on my talk page. Or a well-reasoned cordial message explaining my faults. Or just change whatever needs changing. It's all good. --Gpollock 07:16, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mr. Belvetron

I personally witnessed the premiere episode myself and know for a fact that it was broadcast with the name "Mr. Belvetron" (mostly due to the fact that I had never seen an episode of Mr. Belvedere and thusly knew nothing of his mannerisms, and therefore only got the reference because of the name), however because information on the series as a whole and especially the smaller bits of trivia is so sparse, I can't find exact details pertaining to the original Teletoon airdate, the exact details regarding the change, or indeed remember exactly when the broadcast episodes changed (I seem to remember it being fairly early, but, due to the fact that he is mostly called Mr. B in the series, I can't be certain). I'd be grateful if someone could clarify these facts.

[edit] Archie comics love triangle

I don't see how an apparently irrelevant comic book love triangle is any more similar to this love triangle than any other. It's just a love triangle. I think that reference should be removed, unless the person who put it there has some legitimate reason for it. 128.237.237.199 02:30, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

At first I agreed with you, especially written the way it was. But I looked into it, and realised two things. First, it's not just the Abe-Cleo-JFK triangle that comes from Archie comics; it's the double love triangle, down to basic personality traits of the characters involved. Second, since Archie Comics are so popular, and since its double love triangle is the comics' main plot point, it's unlikely Clone High would accidentally stumble across the exact same plot. So, I've expanded the discussion to make the parallels more obvious, and, since it's not really essential information about the show, I moved it to the Allusions section. --Gpollock 03:12, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Snowflake Day

I updated the airdate for this episode. See it's talk page for more info. What note could be added to the date? --Mabba18 03:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian origin in question?

If the trivia item "[t]he series had run in its entirety in Canada on Teletoon before premiering in the United States on MTV" is accurate, why does infobox show the country of origin including the USA, and how are MTV and the MTV run dates relevant to its original run on Teletoon? IMDB indicates "Country: Canada". Drapeau06 20:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

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