Talk:Cleophis

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Bedfore placing non-sensical templates in this article, come and discuss its relevance with reference to this article. This is vandalism.

Sze cavalry01 18:58, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I have replied here. - Ganeshk (talk) 07:17, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

We cordially invite those who still believe in Alexander-Cleophis intrigue to come forward and discuss in this talk page the issue so that one may know reality vs phantasy in the classical accounts.

KLS

Wait, wait, wait... a Republic!?

[edit] Article really needs to have the amount of POV reduced

I know nothing about the subject of the article, but I was immediately struck by how non-neutral the article is. Rather than presenting information, this article engages in overt advocacy. Some examples:

"...the story rather seems to be baseless and not more than a romantic invention"
"Curtius is not more than a romantic story teller who can easily loose track and stray from truth"
"We must dismiss from our mind the notion that the statements of classical writers have any special claims to be recognised as true or authentic"
"...romantic concotions and indulgences which the weak and careless classical intellectual-pimps like Justin have stamped as if they were authentic" (my emphasis added)
Sections like - "Unproven and false allegation"; "Cleophis was innocent"

It's one thing to quote critical sources, but it's another thing to overtly take positions in an article. I don't feel I have enough knowledge in this area to properly edit this article, but the POV really needs to be toned down. The pimp reference is the clearest, so I will remove that. I hope other editors of this article will help clean it up. -Kubigula (ave) 04:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)