Talk:Clementine
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[edit] Sources
It seems part of this article was taken from here: http://www.producepete.com/shows/clementines.html That page also seems to contain more information.
aripollak 22:34, 22 Dec 2005 (EST)
[edit] No seeds?
I just bought some clementines, about 20 of them, and about 2 had a seed in them. The seed was about 1cm in length.
I agree - clementines do have seeds. Otherwise I wonder how they reproduce.
- So they do? I thought the very definition of a fruit is they have seeds. I am going to update the article to say "very few"
- Plants can be grown asexually from cuttings, graftings, cell cultures, etc. With most modern fruit bearing plants they have been hybridized with other closely related species with a different chromosome number to give the resultant plant an odd pairing of chromosomes, rendering it sterile. There can be some things that can happen to reverse the sterility, but thats outside the scope of this question. As noted in the article sometimes additional crossbreeding can reintroduce traits that were bred out. The typical clementine is seedless, though seeded versions can exist. also the structure is analogous to a fruit, and it just happens to be sterile and without seeds. Would you call a chicken egg something else because there is no embryo inside of it? -ZTS
I think it qualifies as seedless, in the general usage of the term, much as seedless watermelons do have seeds, but they are small and edible. Since the average clementine doesn't have seeds, I think that the statement that they have very few seeds is a bit misleading.
- agreed, the fruit is typically seedless. -ZTS
[edit] No proof
From my research, there is no proof that the French monk developed the clementine. He may have simply found it and spread it to Europe. There are claims that it originated in China. Perhaps the wording of this article should be changed.
Mothperson 20:31, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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- As far as I can tell, a Clementine is the same thing as a Mikan. And Mikans came from japan. Fresheneesz 20:40, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Popularity
Anyone have a sourse on the popularity of Clementines? I knew that they only renctly became widely available in the U. S., but as near as I can tell they're very popular, in which case mention of that should probably be made. But I don't have any sourse besides my own observations. Snowboardpunk
[edit] Nectar
To me, it seems the word nectar and juice is mixed up here. I think the word juice is more appropriate as nectar is produced by flowers to attract insects. I presume this is not the case here. But English is not my mother tongue, so I don’t feel I’m the one who should correct this. no it doesnt mater they should use correct words t make the whole sentance sound inteligent ±clementyn 19:12,03 oct 2006 .
[edit] Ridiculous amount of links
I fixed the page so that it doesn't contains links to .. like.. seeds and stuff. Links are supposed to help someone understand the articles topic better. Please do NOT link to anything and everything that may or may not have an article. Fresheneesz 20:52, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Difference between Satsuma and Clementine
Does anyone know if there's a real difference between a clementine and a satsuma?
- Mandarin orange specifies a satsuma as the species Citrus reticulata, the same as specified on this page for the clementine. The same article also notes that madarin oranges do not have seeds because they are parthenocopic.
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- I don't have a good source on this, but I think Satsuma's and Clementine's are different cultivars that were produced by the same type of hybridization (Mandarin X Orange). I have lived on the both the east coast and the west coast of the United States. Stores tend to sell Satsuma's on the west coast and Clementines on the east. I have eaten both. I have noticed subtle but distinct differences: Satsuma's have slightly thicker skin and are easier to peel than the already easy Clementines (I can usually take all the skin off in one peel in a few seconds), Satsuma's also seem to be a bit sweeter.--Metatree 20:26, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
