User talk:Ckatz

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Hello! Thanks for dropping by... please feel free to leave me a message below. I don't have a convention as to where I'll respond, be it here, your talk page, or the talk page of the subject we're discussing - but I'll do my best to keep things clear. Let me know if you have a preference... now, get typing! Ckatz

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Contents 1 Moo! 2 Welcome to VandalProof! 3 Barn + star = Barnstar 4 9617 Grahamchapman 5 About the Vancouver College Article 6 Sorry, 7 BSG 8 "Ships named Enterprise" template removal 9 Doctor Who titles 10 WikiProject Vancouver 11 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 12 Signature thanks 13 Title 14 7 Minutes to Midnight Edit 15 RE: Beyond Jericho update advice 16 Jericho 17 MARTA and airports 18 Falklands/Malvinas apology 19 Watchlists 20 Jericho 21 You might care... 22 Canada 23 Planet 24 Economic impact of immigration to Canada 25 Vancouver Whitecaps 26 ==shifting fortunes== 27 COPY EDIT

[edit] Moo!

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[edit] Welcome to VandalProof!

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[edit] Barn + star = Barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For your continued diligence and hard work towards Greater Vancouver-related articles. :) -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 03:54, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 9617 Grahamchapman

Thanks for creating the above article, I think it inspired C-w-l to create articles on the rest of the "Monty Python asteroids". Quite the nice set we've got now! Have a great day, — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • 08:44, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About the Vancouver College Article

Wow! Thanks for contributing to the VC article! I go to VC, and I'd like to say what a great job you've done. You wrote some stuff that even I never knew about VC! Again, thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.71.43.200 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Sorry,

Don't believe any of this information is unverifiable. But, please state something that is. And, I will help you find your way. Thank you for contacting me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PlanetCeres (talk • contribs).

[edit] BSG

Unless im mistaken I dont have mind-reader accross my head.. "please check things out BEFORE you presume they're "fancruft" and delete" - So if youd care to explain what I am supposed to check? MatthewFenton (talk · contribs · count · email) 09:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

This refers to the Battlestar Pegasus article, where you deleted the text:

"Glen Larsen, producer of Battlestar Galactica, attempted a revival in the late 1990s with a feature film project using Commander Cain and the Battlestar Pegasus."

and left the edit summary "Uncited and liekly fan cruft so exterminate." It took all of ten seconds for me to do a quick Google search and confirm the information. All I'm asking is that you take the time to check out plausible information, rather than just deleting it and leaving a sarcastic comment. --Ckatz^chat_spy 09:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not my job to go trawling the internet for cites that people dont add.. your welcome to find one and add them to the article but if its uncited I am well within "rights" to remove it till it can be adequatly cited. MatthewFenton (talk · contribs · count · email) 09:43, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I never said you didn't have the "right" to do it - I merely asked if you could be a bit more polite about the way you go about doing it. If you wish to think of this as a "job", then you might also want to consider that labelling your edit with "Uncited and liekly fan cruft so exterminate" isn't particularly professional. The possibility of a film involving the BSG universe is a noteworthy addition to an article about BSG, so you could easily have added a "citation" tag and waited a few days to see if anyone responded. --Ckatz^chat_spy 09:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Professional? I dont get paid to edit Wikipedia :\ -- Imo it is better to have an article with 0% uncited info ratehr then an article with a ton of {{cn}}s -- Had I had the time to trawl the web for a citation I likely would of - I did not however. MatthewFenton (talk · contribs · count · email) 09:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

For the record, Larson was working on a Battlestar Pegasus movie for about 8-9 months when it became apparent that Universal wasn't going to go anywhere with the Galactica franchise. It turned out that Larson did have the rights through some contractual snafu on Universal's part to do anything with Commander Cain and the Pegasus, and his planned film involved the search for an ancient battlestar called the Atlantis, which was built by the 13th Tribe and deliberately left in a secret location with the maps to Earth. The film would have dealt with the search, a major battle with the Cylons, and the recovery and use of the maps to reach Earth, all w/o involving the Galactica or the RTF other than being mentioned.

The first article Google shows is this one: [1]. And the Wikipedia set up for BSG had this one: [[2]], although I'm not sure about whether there's some Wikirule about referencing other mini-Wikis. The John Larocque article on the attempt is at: [[3]]. Hollywood North Report has a short blurb about the Larson effort, but seeing as how their site has a *LOT* of popups from spammers attempting to load trojans and spyware, I'll quote it here to save your systems: "In the spring of 1999, it was announced that Glen Larson was making plans to bring Galactica to the silver screen. Impressed with the visual effects and style of the independently financed film Wing Commander, Larson paired with its producer, Todd Moyer, on an estimated $40-50 million film that was to shoot later that year in Luxembourg.

The story picked up where the series left off, but followed the exploits of Commander Cain and the battlestar Pegasus (made famous in the original series episode, "The Living Legend," guest starring the late Lloyd Bridges). In the concept, Commander Cain's search for the lost battlestar Galactica leads him to contemporary Earth, which, according to the story, was settled by humans who arrived here during prehistoric times on the very first battlestar, Atlantis.

Special effects were to be handled by Moyer's company, No Prisoners 3DFX, utilizing several of the artists who worked on Wing Commander. Moyer planned to update some of Galactica's ships, including giving the Vipers the ability to morph into mechanized walkers-à la The Transformers-when on planet surfaces. Moreover, he and Larson planned to expand the Galactica franchise to include an Imax film, a theme ride, and a new line of merchandise.

Then, as quickly as it had been announced, the project vanished from the radar screen. It has been suggested that Larson and Moyer ultimately found themselves at odds over significant creative issues. It has also been suggested that the film rights to Battlestar Galactica were still in some dispute. In either case, the project disappeared into the ethers."

IIRC, Cylon.org had a page on this at one time, but since they revised their site this one and its copies of the concept drawings they had have disappeared. Sixty Six 06:18, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Ships named Enterprise" template removal

Thank you very much but it was discussed in June - we dont know if the NCC-1701 *is* the next ship for all we know there could of been a shuttle named Enterprise that had never been mentioned. Deus Sum (Matthew Fenton) (talk · contribs · count · email) 09:06, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Matthew, it wasn't exactly "discussed" - you said "Removed the ship table as we dont know much about the XCV and also the Starfleets are diffrent, so.. dont add it back thank you." and deleted it. Also, it doesn't matter if another ship named "Enterprise" turns up someday; we have to act based on what we know now. The template is for moving between articles about ships named "Enterprise", not for establishing an absolute record of said ships. --Ckatz^chat_spy 09:12, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Doctor Who titles

There's been discussions about this before. The latest round can be found at Talk:Torchwood#Torchwood episode titles. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 01:00, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Vancouver

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[edit] Signature thanks

Thanks for fixing my mistake with my signature. -- Jeff3000 00:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem - I've forgotten before, and I always appreciated it when someone did the same for me. --Ckatz^chat_spy 00:58, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

np . Matthew Fenton (talk · contribs · count · email) 09:11, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Title

I think "of the" is supposed to be lower case - I don't mind either though, The 4400 epsiode is "of the" according to USANetwork.com not sure about Buffy though. Matthew Fenton (talk · contribs · count · email) 09:21, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 7 Minutes to Midnight Edit

Thanks for the edit. I wasn't sure the best way to word that and not take out the other guy's Gattaca movie trivia. I like your rewording. Thanks!

[edit] RE: Beyond Jericho update advice

Just wanted to say thanks for the feedback on how to address the info I've gotten on the fate of Beyond Jericho. Your input was, above all else, given in a positive, professional and above all else *adult* manner. That's how an RFI over Wikipedia policy should be handled, and there are those who could use that as a lesson on how to conduct such affairs. 66.90.151.114 05:58, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! I appreciate the note, and the BSG information as well. Cheers! --Ckatz^chat_spy 23:04, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Glad to be of help. Are you planning on using the info in the Pegasus article, or should I bother to add it myself, as it's obviously *not* "fancruft"? Sixty Six 06:37, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jericho

I saw, and I know. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 20:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I move them if I do not like them during an edit; You are welcome to show me "Guideline" that says I can not move them. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 08:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

from the reply left on Matthew's talk page:

It's part of the Wikipedia accessibility guidelines (WP:WAI), and the specific section is here:

"Disambiguation links should be the first elements of the page, before any image or infobox. A text only browser or screen reader present the page sequentially, and otherwise the dablink will be read between the image and the lead section."

It's a common mistake, as many editors move the top-of-page templates for esthetic purposes. However, it creates problems for people who use screen readers. Hope this helps. --Ckatz^chat_spy 08:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MARTA and airports

Hi Ckatz -- sorry if I sounded pissy -- it's kind of frustrating to see one's reverts reverted, but I do know that accidents happen when two editors are working on an article at more or less the same time! As for the categorization, the distinction, as the text of the Airport Rail Link article states, is between mainline trains (commuter or intercity rail) and local public transit (which could include either heavy rail subway/metro/rapid transit or light rail). MARTA definitely falls into the latter category. --Jfruh (talk) 05:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem whatsoever, and no apologies needed - I presumed it was due to the edit overlap. As for MARTA, thanks for the information. Cheers! --Ckatz^chat_spy 08:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Falklands/Malvinas apology

(Sigh). Picture me opening my mouth and inserting my foot. As you will see from my (further) comments on the talk page, you were right, and I was wrong. Sorry for sounding so authoratative. You simply would not believe the fight that went on over that thing. Best. -- Gnetwerker 20:42, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Watchlists

Uh? I was just look at Switchfo0t813's Talk Page. How did that User find out that their Talk Page was in your Watchlist? I'm not try to spy on other Users' Watchlists, but I didn't think that anyone could see them. I'm just asking, that's all. Acalamari 02:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Based on activity, I guess. I monitor several hundred different articles that I've worked on, for changes and vandalism, as well as doing the odd bit of vandal patrol work. When an editor's actions warrant it, I'll leave a warning on their talk page (which is how I crossed paths with this editor) and the Wiki software automatically adds that talk page to my watchlist. After allowing time for them to reply, I remove the page (otherwise my watchlist gets way, way too bulky and s-l-o-w). However, if there's an apparent pattern, I'll keep an eye out for a while - which led to a note on Sw's page today, hence (I presume) the question. As far as I know, the Wiki software won't allow you to check out other watchlists, for privacy reasons. (Perhaps administrators can, but I don't know as I'm not an admin.) Hope this helps! --Ckatz^chat_spy 05:24, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jericho

Hmm.. It doesn't render below the image on some browsers? Hold on.. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 09:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Try now.. should work (I hope.. anyway..) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 09:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Anyway.. Yea I watch Heroes.. Sliders, Star Trek, The 4400, BSG, Jericho, Veronica Mars, The O.C., Medium, Odyssey 5, Lost, Dead Like Me, Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, and odd shows 'n' stuff, etcetera, hehe (and there just the American stuff :-)) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 09:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I watch Doctor Who, yea, Torchwood (A 'Who spin-off) has been good, never seen Blake's 7 (not yet anyway) - There isn't much in the way of sci-fi over here though, I watch Red Dwarf, there is/was a new scifi-comedy thing called 'Hyperdrive' - sucks major time though - I watch the odd soap as well, hehe. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 09:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You might care...

Hi there. I saw you leaving some intelligent commentary at Talk:White_Canadian. I thought what you had to say made sense and was useful. I've listed the article as a candidate for deletion. This may be inappropriate (To be honest, it's the first time I've done that about an article), and I thought I might invite comments from people who have posted on the page's talk page. I have been around Wikipedia for a little while, but I haven't gotten as deeply involved as some have. I'm certainly happy to be wrong, but most importantly I'd like to have some other people at least think about whether I am or not, rather than have a couple of people (the one or two users most interested in the article - I must include myself there, now, I suppose) dictate it's future, because it obviously has the potential to be an inflammatory discussion. Thanks!!! AshleyMorton 20:13, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canada

Sorry for any offense to my revert in the Canada article. Life's too short. Deet 04:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Planet

Sorry for not spotting the in-progress vandalism when I edited. Good work editing it out. Adam Cuerden ^talk 00:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Economic impact of immigration to Canada

I think I've addressed some of all of your issues, and hopefully some of the Peer Review suggestions. Would you mind if I clean-up the talk page of the article. I'd like to nominate it for a Good Article review and don't want the old discussion to distract. I can archive it or just clean it up. Deet 01:13, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vancouver Whitecaps

Hello,

USL is the second largest league as the Major League Soccer is the largest. It's common knowledge therefore no reference is needed. Please amend page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chriswonky (talk • contribs) 01:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

Based on the Wikipedia articles about the United Soccer Leagues and Major League Soccer, it would appear that the USL is the largest system, as it encompasses three men's divisions, a women's league, and a youth league, whereas the MSL is a single league with 13 teams. The MSL is the top-level division, and perhaps that is what you were referring to. However, the text in the lead would need to be rewritten to reflect that fact. I've started a discussion at the Whitecaps talk page to figure out how best to handle this. (BTW, it's not really "common knowledge" unless you actually follow soccer.) --Ckatz^chat_spy 09:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough, didn't know USL as so many divisions/leagues. Good research, I think the lead is better now.

[edit] ==shifting fortunes==

thanks, ckatz for dividing into paragraphs and removing grammatical curiosities (like the NDP party) (The new democratic party party??) wow, I is educated...and thanks for not reaming me out over my attempt at this area bc politics are fun as hell to document though, wrtiting this section I learned campbell was the first premier in 2 decades to not resign over scandal. cheers from British Columbia TotallyTempo 19:40, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] COPY EDIT

what is a copy edit, apparentley my section had none? what does that mean? TotallyTempo 19:45, 16 December 2006 (UTC)