Talk:Christmas in July
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[edit] TV?
"Christmas In July" is in reference to TV shows, which go into reruns in the summer months. The month of July typically recieves the rerun episodes that first ran in December, thus all the July shows are in "Christmas." It's not a real celebration and stores don't use it for advertising. It's a cute observation of how television works (or worked in the past) in the US. -mpb
In my experience as a lifelong resident of the United States, the phrase "Christmas in July" is exclusively used by retailers advertising summer sales, and has never been celebrated by anyone, anywhere. If in fact there are people who celebrate "Christmas in July", the author needs to document who and where these people are. Thailand? Mongolia? The Falklands? Iqaluit, Nunavut, Canada, maybe? A citation would help, too. --DavidConrad 02:59, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
- That is twice in one day that I embarrassed myself on WP. The smarmy, sarcastic tone of the above comment was entirely uncalled for. --DavidConrad 02:30, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Duel purpose
Perhaps the phrase "Christmas in July" may refer to a ploy used by retailers as well as an unofficial get together in July. Nevertheless if this is the case then perhaps the author should eleborate more clearly. --StevenL 15:28, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Found Using Google
Found a Christmas in July Festival and linked it. --StargateX1 2:05, 3 August 2005 (PST)
[edit] Australian use
I'll leave the US usage dispute up to someone who knows about it, but I've added a sentence about how the term is used in Australia. JPD 15:21, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
I do not know to what extend it is celebrated, but for what it's worth: at a hotel in Australia (near Mackay, Queensland), there was a small christmas tree on 20 July 2005. When I asked about it, I was told, this was a"Christmas in July" thing. I had the impression there was no specific day of celebrations, but this was at least not a marketing thing, but a genuine attempt to bring a mood of Christmas in the July winter. 145.99.148.36 00:49, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
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- It is really not heavily celebrated. Some establishments and organisations might do it, but most do not. I had heard of it (chatted about on TV magazine programs) through the 1990s but never actually saw much evidence of these celebrations in real life. The WP article I believe is misleading in claiming that Christmas in July is so Australians may partake in roasted meats and plumb pudding: Australians eat cooked food and roasted meats every week of the year and do not need a made-up holiday to allow them to do it!!! And if anyone wanted a hot sweet they would just eat it! Really since the 1990s the only real mention I have ever seen of Christmas in July is in the Big Brother TV series! Asa01 20:20, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- Hotel decorations, theme nights, and theme celebrations are a "marketing thing". Hotels are commercial entities, and decorations they put up and theme nights are part of their marketing - of themselves. It is all done to get drinkers in. Asa01 20:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- It is really not heavily celebrated. Some establishments and organisations might do it, but most do not. I had heard of it (chatted about on TV magazine programs) through the 1990s but never actually saw much evidence of these celebrations in real life. The WP article I believe is misleading in claiming that Christmas in July is so Australians may partake in roasted meats and plumb pudding: Australians eat cooked food and roasted meats every week of the year and do not need a made-up holiday to allow them to do it!!! And if anyone wanted a hot sweet they would just eat it! Really since the 1990s the only real mention I have ever seen of Christmas in July is in the Big Brother TV series! Asa01 20:20, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Found more, looks legit
I found more references to it. It certainly isn't as widely known or celebrated as Christmas, but I think this is legit. It's probably more used as a marketing tool than as a holiday in the US, but so what? That just means it's more a marketing tool in the US, and we should clearly say so. I know of people in the US who have celebrated it, though. And there seem to be many southern hemisphere references (which makes sense; traditional "wintertime" activities around Christmas would need to wait 1/2 a year to do in many places in the southern hemisphere). -- Dwheeler 16:07, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
But it's clear that some people do celebrate it, at least as a novelty. I've modified the text to make its marketing role in the US clearer, and to make it VERY clear that many people don't celebrate it... and of those who do, it's still less important than Christmas. Perhaps now that it's modified we can remove the "disputed" marker. -- Dwheeler 16:27, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
