Talk:ChristianUnion
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In its current form, this is merely an advertisment for the party concerned. Does anyone know any more about them? The Anome
The first version of this page was a straight lift from http://www.christenunie.nl/main.php?tekstId=75
Removing for reasons of copyright violation, unless the poster can show that they have permission from the copyright holder.
Note: I have removed the earlier text of this page, as it was a copy of the English-language page from their website. This is not permitted unless the text is donated by the copyright holder to Wikipedia under the GFDL.
I removed:
- See also Benjamin Anker.
since its relevance is not clear. --Erauch 20:40, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Can someone provide more on "left-wing, social democrat ideas on economic and environmental issues"? I have a hard time finding much about this in their English web page. --Erauch 20:40, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Page Location
- The following discussion is an archived debate. The discussion is closed.
In my experience, the primary meaning of "Christian Union" among English-speakers at least in Britain is to refer to Christian groups in university and colleges; not to the Dutch political party (Google backs this up - googling for Christian Union gets mostly University groups, with the exception of a US denomination which also uses the name). I think this page should probably be at Christian Union (Netherlands), unless anyone has a better suggestion; and Christian Union should be about the Christian Union movement, or at least a disambiguation page. Thoughts? TSP 11:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
- Either Christian Union (Netherlands) or ChristenUnie would be OK. Eugene van der Pijll 20:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
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- Mmm, yes. The Use English convention suggests that it should stay in English - unless the original Dutch is more commonly used in English than the Anglicisation is. Can anyone say whether this is the case or not? I'm afraid I don't often find myself discussing the political parties of the Netherlands... the web has plenty of instances of each being used in English-language web pages. TSP 01:48, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
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- If the party is not commonly mentioned in English, then I think the rule implies that the English name should be used. --Erauch 18:29, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archived debate. The discussion is closed.
Many of the links to this page have still been using Christian Union, and have been referring to the party as "Christian Union" not ChristianUnion or ChristianUnie. I'm not passing comment, just making an observation. I have changed them to point directly here (since Christian Union is now a disambiguation, not a redirect), but I have kept the text the same (ie they still all say "Christian Union" but link here). Matt73 11:58, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The fifth largest party
The article currently reads "It is the fifth-largest party in the Netherlands with around 27,000 members." But the party is only the fifth largest qua members. Qua MPs the party is 8th. I think the current text is not clear on this. So I changed the article. But since some one reverted that I hoped first to see what other thought before changing it back. Any ideas? C mon 14:01, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not sure "Fifth largest qua members" is proper English; it looks more like Dutch to me. Perhaps that is why it was reverted. I have reformulated the statement, in a perhaps more Englishy style. Eugene van der Pijll 22:45, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reformed?
I would seem to me that calling the ChristianUnion a reformed party is incorrect, since some of the members are non-reformed evangelicals or pentecostals and even some catholics. One of the catholic members, Harry Notermans from Stramproy (a priest!), is mentioned in the following article. I can read Dutch, but I can imagine some of you can't, so I'll describe the things mentioned that are relevant to this discussion. This article (alike some other articles on the website) describes the current tendency of othodox catholics voting or even joining the ChristianUnion. The ChristianUnion welcomes these people. The party leader André Rouvoet in the media encourages other catholics to join aswell. So far the article. I would like to add that the members of the ChristianUnion are still predominantly reformed, but the party isn't exclusively reformed. There are many non-reformed protestants who represent the ChristianUnion in local councils and some of the candidates for the next parliamentary elections are non-reformed protestants aswell (the numbers four and five, Joel Voordewind and Cynthia Ortega-Martijn, for example). Looking at recent polls these two non-reformed protestants are likely to become members of parliament after 22 november. Catholics joining the ChristianUnion is a somewhat newer development.Jonathan van Tongeren 00:30, 26 september 2006 (UTC)
- First off, I can read Dutch. Second, I want to stress that this party is not oecumenical christian but atleast protestant. I have mended that now, is that a compromise you can live with? C mon 07:25, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
