Talk:Chris Murphy (politician)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was No consensus. Duja► 08:56, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Chris Murphy (politician) → Chris Murphy — Also Chris Murphy → Chris Murphy (disambiguation). Since he's a U.S. Representative now, he's far more likely a search target than the three blue links at the current dab page —Wknight94 (talk) 03:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

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• Strong Support Congressman Murphy is by far the best known of all the Murphy's listed.--Francisx 04:17, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

• Support for the same reason. Frankg 02:56, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support. You're going to get an admin to help, yes, rather than cut-and-paste? (Otherwise, the page history gets lost) John Broughton | Talk 08:07, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • I am an admin actually but yes, all successful official move requests result in a proper move. —Wknight94 (talk) 12:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose. Maybe at some future time might warrant primary disambiguation, but not now even though temporarily might be the one most people would look for. Just leave the disambiguation page where it is, there is no compelling reason for a change at this time. Gene Nygaard 23:52, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

The prominence of this election isn't why I'm supporting the move, it's because as a Member of Congress, Murphy will be in a continued position of prominence that's quite a bit beyond that achieved by, say, Chris Murphy (Canadian Musician)Francisx 20:42, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I disagree that Chris Murphy warrants primary disambiguation, and even the fact that he is a United States Representative does not warrant moving him to primary disambiguation. Whether Murphy will obtain a continued position of prominence as a Congressman is questionable. As to whether Chris Murphy (Candidan Musician) or Representative Murphy will be more prominent to all Wikipedia users is again questionable. Many people who use Wikipedia may not know or care who Representative Murphy is and consider Chris Murphy the musician to be more prominent or for that matter one of the others listed to be more prominent. Therefore I must oppose such a move until it is more clear whether Representative Murphy will obtain the prominence you think he will as a member of Congress. Edward Lalone 03:17, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose. Representative Chris Murphy does not warrant this move. I would oppose it on the basis that he does not currently have enough prominence as a member of Congress to warrant such a move. Personally, I could care less who this guy is as he does not represent me and has made no major contributions to the United States House or for that matter made himself news worthy other then as a candidate. If there is a time when he makes the news enough to be considered prominent at least in the United States instead of only his district than I would support such a move but since he has not made any contributions of note or made himself generally known to at least the general population of the United States this move is unwarranted. Edward Lalone 03:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Utterly off-topic. Nobody is disputing Chris Murphy's overall notability, regardless of whether you live in his district or not (he is CLEARLY notable per WP:BIO, and if you disagree, AFD him). The only question is his notability viz. other Chris Murphies. And on that front, Congressman Murphy is way out in front. A quick survey of google results, for example, shows the Congressman getting about 90% of the hits, while various non-notable Murphies (a cartoonist, for example) get most of the rest. "Chris Murphy" + Connecticut yields about 223,000 hits, whereas "Chris Murphy" + Ska gets only 1,270. Not arguing that the ska bandist isn't notable per WP guidelines, but we're clearly dealing with two very different levels of notability. It seems unlikely that the typical person searching for "Chris Murphy" is looking for anybody other than the Congeressman. However, if they are, there will be links on the disambig page.Francisx 04:34, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose. It's not enough to say he's the most prominent (and even that seems contentious), he needs to be overwhelmingly more prominent than any other bearer of the name, and he's not. Andrewa 06:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

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Of the blue links currently in Chris Murphy, three of them should probably either be merged into their band's page or deleted entirely; one is a barely-sourced article about the 3rd place finisher in Australian Idol 2; and another is a sub-stub at "Christopher" instead of Chris meaning it doesn't even need to "compete" with this article. Never mind his prominence compared to other congressmen - he's an elected representative serving in a national office making decisions which could affect the whole world. How can that compare to a ska band bassist whose apparent claim to fame is receiving a severed pig head for his 21st birthday? —Wknight94 (talk) 04:18, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

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