Talk:Chip Beall

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[edit] Articles for Deletion debate

This article survived an Articles for Deletion debate. The discussion can be found here. ~~ N (t/c) 19:18, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Plagiarism issues

I noticed there was a minor exchange in this article's history over alleged acts of plagiarism commited by Mr. Beall's company. The accuser posted a link to a quiz bowl Yahoo Groups main page, which was understandably viewed as insufficient. However, there are some individual posts from the discussion board with verifiable examples of plagiarism. Take, for example: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/quizbowl/message/3295

The links in that post are no longer active because it is 6 years old. However, going through archive.org and updated links on the Stanford packet archive, the example still checks out.

http://web.archive.org/web/20001205003200/http://qunlimited.com/quiz.html <- View question 15, from a Chip Beall online quiz competition dated December 2000.

http://quizbowl.stanford.edu/archive/terrapin95/umd.txt <- View question 16, from a University of Maryland college tournament dated 1995. The Madonna of the Rocks question in the QuizNet page was clearly taken verbatim from this question set.

I think some dicussion on this subject might be merited, seeing how there are additional verifiable examples on the Yahoo quiz bowl groups page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 140.180.144.31 (talk • contribs) 13:09, 2 June 2006.

Why bother? Someone with an agenda (probably a person who did well at Beall's rigged fiasco of a tournament and doesn't want the validity of their big high school achievement compromised) is just going to delete whatever you post regardless of how well sourced it is. There are a billion unverified claims on Wikipedia, the fact that one which actually does have an external reference was deleted just shows that this site isn't about the verifiable truth, it's about personal grudges, who's been here the longest, and who can make the longest speech about "e-digital podcasting future infospheres" and shit. Andrewpetergoss 09:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Yowch, WP:CIVIL pleeease. :( J. Finkelstein 04:55, 16 June 2006 (UTC)