Talk:China Lobby

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[edit] Rename to China lobby in the United States?

In order to be consistent with other articles on other lobby groups and to clearly differentiate the China lobby in the US from potential China lobbies in other countries. --Deodar 15:00, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

do you have evidence or examples of a "China lobby" being referred to as such existing outside the US? The common names rule takes precedence provided there is no ambiguity.--Jiang 07:21, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I moved the article. You have a China lobby in the UK and another one in Canberra. I'm not sure about Canada but I would guess that their political theatre also notice the influence of a China lobby that wants to voice opinions in different matter ranging from tourism and trade to the Taiwan issue. Regards. South Korean Sky 05:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

moved back as there is no consensus. I did a search and could not find evidence of the specific term "China Lobby" being used to refer to groups in Australia or the UK. Please present some evidence here. In any case, I think having this as the primary article would better reflect the prominence of the American "China Lobby" (both of them).--Jiang 07:33, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[1] [2] [3] But you're right that when people speak of the "China Lobby" they most often refer to the one (or two) in the United States. How about the consistency argument, you're not persuaded by that either? South Korean Sky 09:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

here it is being used as a phrase "pro-China lobby" (notice the pro in front of China). "pro-China" is used in adjectival form to describe "lobby" (lowercase l). this is not quite the reference we see in history books as "the China Lobby" (emphasis added): [4].

There's Wikipedia:Disambiguation and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names) but no policy on consistency. If the other lobbies are refered to using specific names, then perhaps they are the ones that should be moved? Instead of "Israel lobby in the United States", that article should be titled "Israel Lobby (United States)"? --Jiang 10:16, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

You do make some good points. I will not move the article again. Regards. South Korean Sky 11:20, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I think that as more articles are created on the other lobbies it will make sense to move it to the name I suggested. There is no rush for the time being. --Deodar 18:51, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

"Lobby" should be capitalized because this refers to a specific lobby, not just any lobby promoting China, even though in actuality there are two of them. As above, it is rendered "the China Lobby" not "pro-China lobby"--Jiang 16:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)