Talk:Chevrolet Silverado
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[edit] Bed lengths
Can anybody add the lengths of the beds of the various Silverado models?
[edit] Merge or split
There has been a suggestion to split the GMC Sierra content from this Chevrolet Silverado page. I suggest leaving them merged in this article for the following reasons:
- There are virtually no differences in specification or equipment between the two models. Compare GMC.com with Chevrolet.com and see for yourself. Or ask Edmunds.
- There are no differences in introduction schedules or other facts which would cause confusion.
- The Chevrolet handily outsells the GMC, so this is clearly the "master" vehicle for the other to be redirected into.
- This same argument has been made repeatedly for other car models. See the Chevrolet Lumina APV et al for a family that (barely) had enough differences to be split.
Since the suggestion has been made, let's discuss it here before proceeding. --SFoskett 04:41, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reason for split
The GMC Sierra has existed for quite a few years as its own vehicle, called the GMC Sierra. Formerly, the Silverado was just a trim package on the GMC Sierra. However, in 1999, Chevrolet decided to start manufacturing its own vehicle, called the Chevrolet Silverado. Now, I know these cars pretty well, I've ridden in both and have looked at the cars, both online and in person. I know that, for all intents and purposes, they are the same truck. However, this similarity has only come about recently (1999-present) and is still only a similarity. The fact of the matter is, the GMC Sierra has been in production for years before the Chevrolet Silverado has been in production, and they are still separate vehicles. Having them listed the way it is listed now is misleading to someone looking up the car and might lead them to believe that the Sierra is just another name for the Silverado.
Also, how can the history of the Sierra be listed in the Silverado article if they are in the same article? Furthermore, what if any future discrepancies between the cars come about. It would not be beyond GM to do that.
There needs to be separate articles for the GMC Sierra and the Chevrolet Silverado. Any questions, feel free to message me.
-Mtz1031
- I may be misinformed, but I believe that "Sierra" was a common trim line on the GMC version of the General Motors C/K Trucks, just as "Silverado" was a common line for the Chevrolet model. Both vehicles were officially called "Chevrolet C/K" and "GMC C/K" for many years until GMC adopted the Sierra name across their whole line in 1988. But these vehicles were still mostly identical, and still used the C/K nomenclature. The 1999 trucks officially dumped C and K for conventional Silverado and Sierra names, but the similarities continue.
- Sure, GM might add some differences in the future, but they haven't yet. What specifically would you write about the Sierra? What difference is worth more than a few words? --SFoskett 05:11, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
- I see you're point. Althought the GMC is not still a trim models after 1988 it still shares its similarity. I knew about the Chevy C/K and GMC C/K, but I also knew that there was the "GMC Sierra" before there was a "Chevy Silverado" (hence the history debate). I agree that they should remain together because of their similarities, though. There is still some differences in the equipment of the early release dates in the earlier models of the Silverado and Sierra as well as some that still exist (e.g. grill, luxury items, new features, etc.). I understand your point about listing these articles on the same page, but there needs to be at least two things done if they are to remain merged: 1.) Fix the name (I'm not sure what would be best, but even though Chevrolet produces the "master" car, there still needs to be a better name). 2.) Specify that there are differences between the two vehicles at some point or another. I can understand listing it under the same article, but it needs to be very apparent that two companies produce these cars and that they aren't truly identical cars. So, if these things are addressed, I see no problem with keeping these articles together. --Mtz1031 18:52, 6 February 2006 (UTC-5)
- I agree there are some differences. Could someone cite some differences below to see if a split is nessary.
Just a note that at least for the past several years both of the vehicles are made in the same factory, on the same assembly line from identical frames and bodies. Almost all of the parts are identical. Peyna 04:04, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
The major argument I could see that would justify a split is the difference of models offered by Chevrolet and GMC (namely the the SS and Denali models). The standard model Silverado and Sierra are similar, except for the sheet metal changes brought on in 1999 which made the visual change between the two pickups more than just an emblem. However, a GMC Sierra Denali is not offered on the Silverado platform, nor is a Chevrolet Silverado SS offered on a Sierra platform. This is a major difference in both brands, and it is not identified prominently enough on this page. If a split is not in the works, then some further explanation (and possibly some more images) are needed to differentiate these two brands. I think a possible GMC Sierra section should at the very least be added to note the difference between these two brands. --HumanZoom 08:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Future Auto Tag
The GMT 900 trucks have not been released yet, and as far as I know is still subject to have model changes until it is officially released (hence the future auto tag that specifies that this part of the article "is likely to contain information of a speculative nature"). Please discuss before removing the tag again. -HumanZoom 06:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Split needed!
With the upcoming releease of the GMT900 line of trucks, the exteriors and interiors of both trucks will look completly different. Also, some features may be diferent beteen the two vehicles. When more information is released, I suggest this be split into two seperate articles.
P.S. I don't even think the Denali line is mentioned in this if this is a Silverado/Sierra article.
- I can see you reasoning for a split, but the same argument could be made for the GMT800. They too had different sheet metal exteriors, but on the inside they are the same truck. If a split didn't occur for the GMT800, I doubt one will occur for the GMT900. Also, the Denali line is mentioned in article (although, not very much is said). Anyway, please sign your comments by typing ~~~~. Thanks, -HumanZoom 06:14, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
