Talk:Charlie Williams (comedian)

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i take issue with the use of the word "tragedy" and "tragic" in this biographic article. Without meaning to sound cold hearted, this man was neither killed or died in tragic circumstances, indeed he was a relatively old man with a very common set of ailments.

A few things missing from this article - his mother's nationality/race, and the fact that he occasionally used jokes making fun of other races, especially Pakistanis. Also, he msut've been one of England's first black professional footballers? --MartinUK 21:17, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Seconded. The "Tragedy" section needs to be removed, and what little actual information it contains should be integrated into the main part of the article by someone who is familiar with his life. Dfeuer 21:31, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Race

Is it necessary that he be called "black"? I don't think this should be included unless his race is relevent to the article in some way (e.g. "he was the first black comedian to..."); article about white persons don't often describe the subject as white. -Adasta- 16:16, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Better? I am tempted to go for [WP:DYK]], but it may have been a bit too big before I started. -- ALoan (Talk) 21:29, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Adastra, I think you have to take the reference to a balck comedian in context of the 70s. Black people were not often seen on TV, and rarely as headliners. As a modern day comparison, if a white person were to be selected to play for the West Indies at cricket in the next series, he would always be described as "the first white cricketer to play for the West Indies since Geoff Greenidge" irrespective of his achievements. Thus, I think it is correct to use the term, provided it remains in context.WillE 18:15, 26 September 2006 (UTC)