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Sir Charles is a Japanese national? Is this correct? 75.26.175.190 07:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


Things about Barkley that could be added:

AN IMPORTANT AND CRUCIAL THING IS MISSING: A LIST OF THE YEARS THAT HE PLAYED BASKETBALL AT AUBURN UNIVERSITY. HE ALSO LEAD THE SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE IN REBOUNDING ALL THREE OF THESE YEARS.

You don't think that this is important? For a Nobel Prize Winner, where he went to undergraduate school, and when, is an important fact, and lists have been compiled of which winners went to which universities and in which countries.

  • one of the best rebounders ever, despite his lack of height (listed as 6-6, but about 1-2 inches less in reality)
  • in the list of NBA's top 50 players
  • known for his quotable quotes and unquotable quotes, many of them politically incorrect (such as the one on role models etc)
  • he wrote a couple of books (can't remember the titles now).

--Colemanyee 03:31, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)

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I put that he has shown dislike for the Dallas Mavericks. This information is 100% true, for he has shown disdain for the Mavs many times during "Inside the NBA". Does everyone agree? 71.96.11.37 16:37, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

I would not classify it as disdain. He has stated his opinion that the Mavericks do not play good defense and that they are not a championship team. In any case, even if this constitutes disdain, it is certainly not "for reasons unknown," as he has repeatedly stated his problems with the Mavericks. Also, such a minor detail is not important in the life of Charles Barkley, especially without any quote. He has, at one time or another, said that over half the teams in the NBA "stink." Dastle 22:54, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

I understand what you mean, but he seems to constantly pick on them, constantly single them out, despite the fact there are many teams in the league,"worse" than they are. It is disdain, because numbers show that the Mavericks are a good (not excellant) defensive team, and he refuses to admit that (that also proves it is for reasons unknown). Some say it is because of racism, but I think it goes beyond that. I do not desire to repost this info, I only wanted to make this statement, because it seemed true. As for a quote: (Reggie Miller) " I disagree, Charles, the Mavericks are a solid team. I never said they would beat the Spurs, I simply think they are a pretty good team." (Charles) " Tell me, Miller, who's side are you on?" (Reggie Miller) " I'm only saying that the Mavericks are a good team, I am not on their side!" (Charles) " Yeah, well you better not be!!!" --(December 1, 2006, during the Mavs/Spurs halftime report )(I have more quotes if you want them!) 71.96.11.37 23:56, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

The main problem with your claim is that you said he didn't like Dallas for "apparently no reason." If you are going to say that he dislikes Dallas, at least be accurate and show a neutral, two sided account. This is a good read: http://journals.aol.com/sportzassassin/SPORTZASSASSINSSPORTSJOURNAL/entries/1248
Take this quote from the article:
"Hey first of all, I love Mark Cuban. He ain't never gonna know more about basketball than me. I ain't never gonna have as much money as him, I'll never know more about computers, but he'll live to be 1000, and he'll never know more than us two about basketball. If he knew that, he wouldn't have put that little "soft cake" team together."
I still feel there isn't evidence that he dislikes the Mavericks (he just thinks they aren't a good defensive team).
Also, my suggestion is that if you feel that this is important enough to go into an encyclopedia article, which is up for debate, you should at least put such a statement in a broader perspective. For example, the only reason that this is a story of interest is that Charles is now a popular NBA reporter on TNT. His current occupation, in my opinion, deserves more space on the article than it receives, as it is very important to basketball today (he has drawn more fans to the game with his charisma). The dispute between him and Cuban is a result of the fact that he is a no-nonsense reporter who speaks his mind (although such semi-speculative statements probably don't belong in an encyclopedia). Note also there is more to the story than meets the eye: Mark Cuban is well known for desiring heavy media attention. Many feel that Cuban's statements about Charles are to get more attention in the press.
Dastle 02:50, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

I have no need to repost this, I was only thinking since he usually talks about the Mavericks in a negative light, that I should say something. Again the reason I said, "for reasons unknown" (I didn't mean, "for no apparent reason"!), is that he constantly blames the team for something they are not guilty of. Take defense, for example, though his "bad defense" statements made sense in previous years, the Mavericks are notably playing improved defense, and he will not admit even that. Also, he usually makes false statments, that contradicts the truth. For instance, he made the statement, "the reason the Mavericks do not blow out every bad team they play, is because they do not play defense, and that allows teams to stay in the game." He prides the Spurs and Pistons as being "good" defensive teams, but if you look at their games, the Pistons and Spurs, have lost to (most recently for the Pistons, the Atlanta Hawks), or marginally defeated sub-par teams. This in turn debuncts what Charles said, "good defensive teams blow out every bad team they play". It is like he uses the "bad defense" exuse, to shield his true beliefs about the Mavericks. Again, I have no desire to repost this, what you have told me, makes plenty of sense. Heck, I am not even a Mavericks fan, I only wonder why the guy gives the team such a hard time! Forgive me if I wasted your time! 71.96.11.37 15:04, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Under "Politics" it has been noted that the Alabama state constitution requires candidates to be residents for seven years. Since Barkley is not now an Alabaman, he cannot run for Governor until 2014 at the earliest. See <http://www.madisoncountyrecord.com/articles/2006/08/10/opinion/oped2.txt>

[edit] Spitting on the girl

Nothing about him spitting on that 10 year old girl or whatever during a 76ers games??? That's gotta be one of the most historic examples of bad athetlicship short of running up to the stands to accost someone. --Jpawloski 20:36, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

AFAIK, that was a COMPLETE ACCIDENT!! I believe he was trying to spit on someone who deserved it. I mean, no one in their right mind would intentionally spit on a child!


Also, during the 1992-93 season he jumped over the scorers table to chase down a referee who was trying to head to the lockerroom without incident.

He's somewhat of a controversial figure and It would do this article justice for someone to make a small section on that.
--Dastle 23:07, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


Inadvertently spit on a little girl, sitting courtside, when he meant to hit a heckler; later became friends with the child and her family (http://www.answers.com/topic/charles-barkley)

[edit] Weight

Ok, I'm guessing he never actually weighed more than 900 pounds during his career. Can someone with the proper info correct this?


SOMEONE SHOULD RIGHT ABOUT HIS ANUAL SICKNESS AND VOICE CHANGES


[edit] Chaos Dunk

There is rare footage on the flea market circuit that reportedly shows Barkley performing his patented technique, the forbidden Chaos Dunk. If anyone has further info on where I can obtain such tapes please post here. 65.33.170.190 05:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Barkley_Charles_#1_fan