Talk:Characters in RahXephon

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Linking: Since there are spoilers in the page, one should only link to individual characters from other sections that are "spoiler-protected". --129.241.57.185 02:39, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow.

I'd like comments on the sectioning of this page. --GunnarRene 20:46, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps a character relationship chart would be good? Remeber that the movie, manga and series are not equal in this. --GunnarRene 20:46, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)


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[edit] Itsuki Kisaragi

Isn't Itsuki's origin the same in the movie and the TV series? They were both made using the DNA of Quon and Watari, right? I can't remember a reference to Itsuki being cloned from Ayato. I thought they were twins of the same age. --GunnarRene 17:03, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Character Descriptions

This section moved from Talk:RahXephon

Within the upcoming week, I'd like to add a section to this article for character descriptions. In the process, I would prefer to merge the cast list with the character description list (a la Ranma ½ characters). If anyone has any problems with this, just post here and a proper way of writing the article can be discussed. It is also possible that due to the large number of characters in RahXephon, the character descriptions will have to be migrated to its own separate article. Js2756 13:20, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

I agree to a separate character article. With a long paragraph on each of so many characters, it becomes too long to exist comfortably with the other interesting sections on this page. Also, there are other interesting characters not yet in the list. I suggest leaving a characters section like the one in the Neon Genesis Evangelion on the main page, and link to the separate characters article from that shorter section. --GunnarRene 17:26, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Agreed. While writing the character section, I really didn't think it would eventually grow as large as it did. I am aware that there are many missing characters. I had not finished adding them in, but I had already spent over an hour ensuring that everything was properly formatted, and the voice actors matched, so I wanted to get in what I already had. Unless someone else decides to, I will continue to add to the character section until all of the main players are there. If someone can add the Kanji for the Japanese Seiyū, though, it would be great since I don't know Japanese. Js2756 00:22, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
The kanji are in the seiyū articles anyway. Kanji for words that have their own articles, like Japan, anime, or the Japanese individuals are not necessary in the RahXephon article. Only exception are kanji that have an intersting connection with each other, for example similar kanji, homophones, homographs, homonyms on words/names. If, for example one of the seiyū writes their name with a very similar fashion to their character, this is interesteing and should be pointed out. I don't know Japanese, but my AmigaOne with Debian shows the kanji, so I can add them if you wish. --GunnarRene 13:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Whoops, I meant to say kanji for the character names, not the seiyūs. Js2756 23:48, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
Character Kanji added. --GunnarRene 08:46, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've now made a separate charater article and made a short summary in the main article. --GunnarRene 20:51, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)


One more thing: Regarding the tuning: Does Ayato really defeat Quon? It appears that Ayato gains the uppper hand, but Quon seems to go into Ayato and fuse with him. Then she's re-born in the re-tuned world. My impression was that neither side won completely like Bähbem had expected, but that the Mu side and the Human side formed a fusion world where both lived happily together. --GunnarRene 18:49, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Being defeated does not necessarily mean that she was killed. I used the term defeat to refer to the fact that Ayato did win their battle, and the world was tuned to what he desired it to be. Js2756 00:22, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
I see your point. Though I wonder wether Quon wanted to "win". How about "She is defeated, but not killed,"? Would that be bisased toward my point of view? --GunnarRene 13:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It isn't explicit if she lives or dies. It is possible that Ayato does kill her, but chooses to have her be his child in the new world. Remember that Haruka also appears to die, but is alive in Ayato's new world. I think it would be best, if something needs to be added, to say something along the lines, "She is defeated, but it is unknown whether Ayato kills her". Js2756 23:48, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
I personally think it's just a new child named after Quon that merely looks the same due to the mu genes Ayato posesses (hence his similarity in looks to Itsuki). And that Quon and Itsuki are in some 'afterworld'.
As you can see, this is extremely open to interpretation and it would be unwise to make any outreaching assumptions. Genjix 11:46, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Does Ayato really defeat Quon?

To further develop idea voiced earlier; does the anime state that Ayato and Quon are actually fighting? Given Quon's comment "Promise to be gentle" at the end of the series; one might draw a conclusion that they are actually mating rather than fighting.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.28.145.98 (talk • contribs) .

It's certainly meant as a double entendre, even if Quon might not realize it herself. :-) --GunnarRene 16:19, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where the heck is Jin's profile?

Jin Kunagi. Where's his profile?

Jin's not the only one with a missing profile. The reporter guy(I have terrible memory for names), Ayato's father(again, terrible memory) and Haruka's uncle(someone shoot me) are missing as well. The page could use some additions.

[edit] Plan

- Making a plan (not really a to-do list) below. Feel free to amend. --GunnarRene 19:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Group pictures from the show for the non-main characters (Especially TERRA and Mu personnel, those exist). With proper source and fair use rationale.
  • SVG character interrelation charts showing relationships in analysis phase bible, anime, movie and manga. To keep these free (GDFL+CC), no third party art should be included. (A fair use argument can not be successful in this case, because the potential market for the copyrighted works, namely the guide books, DVD booklets etc, could be adversely affected by wholesale copying.)
  • Explanations of changes between the different story formats.
  • More characters
  • All descriptions in the proper tense. (Past tense for events before the story begins, present tense for everything else.)

[edit] Rikudoh

The article definitely needed the entry about Rikudoh. I seem to remember that he has a connection to both Maya and Kunuki, but I can't recall the specifics for the article. Is anyone going to expand on this? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 13:46, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

OK.--GunnarRene 14:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
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